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Old April 8th, 2015, 01:29 PM   #1661
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Two train paths on the Green Line but only one on the Crenshaw Line? Fail.
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Old April 8th, 2015, 02:41 PM   #1662
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Two train paths on the Green Line but only one on the Crenshaw Line? Fail.
Crenshaw should connect to Downtown and offer direct Airport service.
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Old April 8th, 2015, 02:54 PM   #1663
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Ahead of opening of Wilshire Bus Rapid Transit Phase 2, Metro had press confrence:

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Old April 8th, 2015, 05:20 PM   #1664
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Crenshaw should connect to Downtown and offer direct Airport service.
It looks like there would be an intersection at the Expo/Crenshaw Station. In fact, the Crenshaw Line will be underground, and Expo will be at grade. The connection between the two would be cost-prohibitive.

Furthermore, the downtown Regional Connector will be at capacity serving its two existing lines (the future service pattern once the Expo/Blue and Gold Lines connect). Adding a third service (Downtown to Crenshaw/LAX) through that tunnel would mean removing service elsewhere. It raises the very interesting question of whether it's better to have less frequent, direct service or very frequent service with connections. You can read more about that here:
http://www.humantransit.org/2009/04/...your-city.html

The TL;DR is that by creating a service relying on connections, you can actually reduce total travel time.
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Old April 8th, 2015, 07:53 PM   #1665
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If there was a physical connection to the Expo, there ought to be the capacity for Crenshaw line services to Downtown, unless you need to double the current peak frequency (same as the off peak one, rather than double like on the Blue and Gold lines) all the way from Downtown to the Sea.

Though I agree that it's better as an interchange, especially if you extend it northwards to the Purple and Red lines.

I'm not sure that 20tph would be the capacity of the Regional Connector - the capacity issue lies elsewhere as a modern light rail line using trams on a new build segregated alignment ought to easily do 30tph (and Manchester will soon have 40tph with plans for another 5tph and alleged capacity for 86tph on its busiest bit).
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Old April 8th, 2015, 08:04 PM   #1666
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My guess for why they aren't connecting the Crenshaw Line downtown (aside from the cost):

The section of the Expo between Crenshaw and Pico is already abysmally slow. Adding a second service through that section would only make it slower. Once the Crenshaw Line is extended north to Hollywood/Highland, I'd wager that transferring to the Purple Line at Wilshire would actually get you downtown more quickly than a direct line that shares with the current Expo/future Gold.

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Two train paths on the Green Line but only one on the Crenshaw Line? Fail.
Also, totally agree with this. I suspect that the "K" and "L" lines will both run up Crenshaw eventually, terminating at Hollywood/Highland. My hope is that eventually the Santa Ana West Corridor will be connected to this segment as well.

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Old April 9th, 2015, 12:59 AM   #1667
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Testing continues on the Expo line to Santa Monica.


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Old April 9th, 2015, 08:06 AM   #1668
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opening 2016.04 - Bob Hope Airport/Hollywood Way station

construction on the new airport station on the Antelope Valley Line (Metrolink commuter rail) is scheduled to start in July 2015, with revenue service projected to begin in April 2016.



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Old April 9th, 2015, 12:05 PM   #1669
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Also, totally agree with this. I suspect that the "K" and "L" lines will both run up Crenshaw eventually, terminating at Hollywood/Highland. My hope is that eventually the Santa Ana West Corridor will be connected to this segment as well.
I think Crenshaw with have 5/6 minute headways, whereas the two Green line ones would have 10/12 minute ones.

I think that the LAX bound Green line would extend NW to Santa Monica or Sepulveda.
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Old April 10th, 2015, 06:03 AM   #1670
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A short history of Angel's Flight.


Angels Flight Pre Construction
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Angels Flight 1910
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Angels Flight 1956
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Angels Flight - Bunker Hill
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Angels Flight - Night View
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Angels Flight, the depot
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Old April 10th, 2015, 06:09 AM   #1671
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Old April 11th, 2015, 03:41 PM   #1672
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Report: Converting Metro's Orange Line to rail could cost $1.7 billion

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Old April 11th, 2015, 04:11 PM   #1673
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Sounds relatively affordable.
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I support that conversion, it makes sense.
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Old April 13th, 2015, 08:39 PM   #1675
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That history post of the Angel's Flight is extremely depressing to look at. When you consider what they made out of a wonderful urban fabric. I especially love that beauty of a car garage which rapes the whole view.
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Old April 13th, 2015, 11:35 PM   #1676
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That history post of the Angel's Flight is extremely depressing to look at. When you consider what they made out of a wonderful urban fabric. I especially love that beauty of a car garage which rapes the whole view.
They Should've just stuck with the Queen Annes
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Old April 14th, 2015, 12:19 AM   #1677
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How come they haven't expanded the green line to Norwalk/Santa Fe Springs Metrolink station? So lame
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Old April 14th, 2015, 11:41 AM   #1678
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Because I-105 doesn't reach I-5.

There's no easy right of way for the Green line to use for that last little bit.
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Old April 15th, 2015, 03:48 AM   #1679
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Because I-105 doesn't reach I-5.

There's no easy right of way for the Green line to use for that last little bit.
What about an elevated bridge through Imperial Hwy? It's just 3 miles from one station to another.
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What about an elevated bridge through Imperial Hwy? It's just 3 miles from one station to another.
Sure, it will happen at some point in the medium term as it is proposed. However they have to work out how they are going to travel those 3 miles as 'in the median of I-105' isn't an option. That is why it doesn't already exist.
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