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Old May 12th, 2015, 02:12 AM   #1701
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Great Progress. Train Testing underway, Metro maps being installed. Photo credit to Edgar Burcksen: LInK
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Old May 12th, 2015, 07:19 PM   #1702
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Is the TOP speed from the metro really 1112 kmh?
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Old May 12th, 2015, 10:46 PM   #1703
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Is the TOP speed from the metro really 1112 kmh?
I dont think anything on Rails goes that fast
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Old May 12th, 2015, 11:18 PM   #1704
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I dont think anything on Rails goes that fast
Railguns can fire at 8,600 km/h.
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Old May 12th, 2015, 11:39 PM   #1705
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Old May 13th, 2015, 12:11 AM   #1706
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Rocket sleds: Holloman Air Force Base can get them past 10,000 kph.
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Old May 24th, 2015, 10:48 AM   #1707
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[IMG]Hollywood/Highland Station is located in the heart of Hollywood's tourist attractions[/IMG]

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Old May 27th, 2015, 09:14 AM   #1708
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So I've been tinkering for a while with a version of a future Metro map that incorporates the best ideas from Nick Andert's 2040 Metro map and Yuquiao Zhao's recent proposal (previous page), while adding in a couple thoughts of my own to bind them together -- swapping Orange and Blue, HRT to Glendale and the Artesia/605 LRT among them.

Thicker lines indicate HRT, while thinner lines indicate LRT. You'll notice that some of the lines go very far -- the idea is, a bit like BART, to make the HRT lines do the heavy lifting over long distances, and several of them would run alongside Metrolink commuter rail lines (for instance, out to Ontario or down to Santa Ana.)

I haven't put in the finishing touches, such as the Metrolink lines and connections, but I think it's more or less complete.

Would love your thoughts.



EDIT: Adjusted the area around the Alvarado alignment a bit, and added Adams, Glendale Blvd and Grand/Cesar Chavez stations.
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Old May 28th, 2015, 04:21 PM   #1709
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Post it on subreddit MapPorn! Now!
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Old May 28th, 2015, 07:49 PM   #1710
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Very Good job Marshal, Huge fan of your work. Quick question, are the rail lines differentiated between light and heavy rail by line thickness
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Old May 28th, 2015, 07:55 PM   #1711
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Yes, but not number of tracks.
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Old May 28th, 2015, 10:58 PM   #1712
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Very Good job Marshal, Huge fan of your work. Quick question, are the rail lines differentiated between light and heavy rail by line thickness
Thanks, man! Yes, the HRT is thicker than LRT. There are 7 HRT lines and 8 LRT lines. I am realizing now as I look at it, that double-tracked LRT lines are almost the exact thickness of HRT, which is confusing. Here's the breakdown, in case it's not totally clear:

HRT

Black: Sylmar - Westwood - LAX
Red: Burbank - Hollywood - DTLA - Santa Ana
Purple: Santa Monica - DTLA - Whittier - Brea
Pink: Santa Monica - WeHo - DTLA - El Monte - Pomona
Light Blue: Venice - Culver - WeHo - DTLA - Monterrey Park - Pomona
Lime Green: Venice - Culver - Mid-Wilshire - Echo Park - Glendale
Brown: San Pedro - Pico-Union - Echo Park - Glendale

LRT

Blue: Chatsworth - Burbank - DTLA - Long Beach
Yellow: Warner Center - Burbank - Glendale - Pasadena - Claremont
Orange: Redondo Beach - LAX - South Park - DTLA - Pasadena - Claremont
Gold (FKA Expo): Santa Monica - Expo Park - DTLA - Whittier
Light Pink: Santa Monica - LAX - Anaheim - Santa Ana
Light Purple (FKA Crenshaw): Hollywood - LAX - Torrance - Long Beach - Seal Beach
Green: Torrance - El Segundo - Anaheim - Santa Ana
Tan: Hermosa Beach - Cerritos - Whittier - Industry - Duarte


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The Orange between LAX and DTLA is the "LAX express" -- I would've made it HRT except that the obvious alignment follows the Crenshaw Line, which is and LRT already under construction. But I figure if it's completely grade-separated and with few stops, even an LRT line should be able to make that run very quickly.

Nick Andert's Metro 2040 Map had a line running from the SFV to DTLA and then double back along the "LAX Express" corridor, but as part of my effort to make ever line cross every other line at least once, I opted to swap the upper half of that line with the upper half of the Blue (in the current plan, the Blue goes Northeast to Pasadena/Azusa instead of Northwest to Burbank and Chatsworth). I think I managed to pull off the "crosses every other line" trick for every line except for the Yellow, Lime Green, Light Pink and Green lines.

I'm also not sure what the reality would be for the Lime Green as it winds between the Grove, LACMA and La Cienega. My guess is that it would realistically have to skip one or the other of the Purple Line stops, but I'm not an engineer, so maybe it could be done as pictured.

I've also gotten some grief before (not on this forum) for previous map sketches, about West Side bias. I hope this alleviates some of that issue. Obviously the East Side, Gateway Cities and South Bay lines are a little sparser, but I'm trying to stand by the fairly well-established tenets of what constitutes the "center" of LA, and putting the highest density of lines there. Obviously a huge proportion of people live in the Eastern, Southeastern and Southern parts of the city, but the concentration of jobs are largely in the area between DTLA and Century City, bounded on the South by Wilshire Blvd, and on the North by Santa Monica Blvd, Hollywood Blvd and Sunset Blvd. For the purposes of designing my map, that is LA's "Manhattan," and I tried to treat it accordingly.

Hopefully further alleviating any smacking of bias is the Tan Line (which is pretty fun to say.) It's the last thing I added and entirely my own invention, although it wouldn't surprise me if many others had had the idea independently. Basically it runs along Artesia, the 91 and 605 freeways. Obviously nobody likes riding in the center of a freeway, but without a "ring road" type line binding the East and South extremities of the map together, almost all trips between those outer regions would require traveling first in the direction of DTLA and then back out again in another direction. Because it would by necessity be completely grade-separated, I thought this Artesia/605 LRT alignment would be the cheapest and simplest way to build a line shuttling between the "outer boroughs," much like the proposed Bronx/Queens/Brookyln X Line would in New York.
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Old May 29th, 2015, 02:30 PM   #1713
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I can never see HRT without thinking about Hormone Replacement Therapy. But that said, I really like the map. If LA had a system like that it would be awesome!
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Old May 29th, 2015, 09:03 PM   #1714
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Can you apply that map to Google Maps?
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Old May 29th, 2015, 10:48 PM   #1715
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Can you apply that map to Google Maps?
Heh, I have it sketched out in pencil on my corkboard, but I haven't figured out how to make a base Google Map image that's both large enough and detailed enough -- as you zoom out, the streets start to vanish, and drawing on a giant map without any detail kind of defeats the purpose. If you've got a good idea how to get a high-detail, high-res Google Map of the entire LA metro area, I'd happily get to work drawing this up.
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Old May 30th, 2015, 01:51 PM   #1716
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Heh, I have it sketched out in pencil on my corkboard, but I haven't figured out how to make a base Google Map image that's both large enough and detailed enough -- as you zoom out, the streets start to vanish, and drawing on a giant map without any detail kind of defeats the purpose. If you've got a good idea how to get a high-detail, high-res Google Map of the entire LA metro area, I'd happily get to work drawing this up.
Maybe we could make a Maps layer with it (.kml file) and add it to the Google Maps Gallery. I was thinking about doing it on my own, but it's way too much work. If anyone's interested, we could make a collaboration
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Old May 30th, 2015, 08:59 PM   #1717
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Foothill Gold Line light rail maintenance centre completed
27 MAY, 2015



A $265 million light rail maintenance and operations centre for the Foothill Gold Line has opened in California.

The new facility, which can house up to 84 light rail vehicles, has been built as part of the 18.5-kilometre Foothill Gold Line light rail project which will connect Pasadena to Azusa

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Old May 31st, 2015, 04:19 PM   #1718
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I have just realized that there is a long gap between the station's headhouse and the platforms.
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Old May 31st, 2015, 07:53 PM   #1719
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I have just realized that there is a long gap between the station's headhouse and the platforms.
Good point. May turn out to be a blessing in disguise, quite honestly.
I imagine it will streamline their efforts to expand the station for HSR, over the next several years.
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Old June 4th, 2015, 05:44 PM   #1720
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http://www.ipernity.com/doc/expo-line/38415574

Great Update on Expo Line. Photos by Edgar Burcksen.

DTSM station street curbs, floor tile work began last week.
Street Intersection improvements are complete on most stations.
All OCS wiring is completed except for the last two western stations.
Maintenance yard still needs work.

for photos visit Mr. Burcksen's photos. He does great work.
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