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Old September 27th, 2015, 04:10 PM   #1881
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Hello,

Do you habe Photos with the undergroudnstations?
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Old September 27th, 2015, 04:47 PM   #1882
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Do you habe Photos with the undergroudnstations?
All across this thread. Just have some time and see previous posts
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Old September 27th, 2015, 04:52 PM   #1883
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From Railway Gazette:

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Orange County awards streetcar design contract
26 Sep 2015

USA: California’s Orange County Transportation Authority has selected HNTB Corp to design the OC Streetcar project, which is intended to provide easy ‘last mile’ connections from Metrolink trains and buses to employment, retail and recreational areas.

The line would run 6·6 km from Santa Ana Regional Transportation Center through downtown Santa Ana and along a former Pacific Electric Railway right-of-way to a new multimodal transit hub at Harbor Boulevard and Westminster Avenue in Garden Grove. Serving 10 stops, the line would have a fleet of eight trams

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Old September 27th, 2015, 04:54 PM   #1884
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Maps of OC Streetcar:
http://blog.octa.net/oc-streetcar-comes-to-life-online
http://www.trolleyville.com/tv/times...eadline04.html



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Old September 29th, 2015, 07:42 PM   #1885
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So the choice is between a serious streetcar option and some limited use toy tram loop option?
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Old September 30th, 2015, 02:06 AM   #1886
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I didn't realize it was 2 separate proposals , what is the projected ridership of the 2 projects?
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Old September 30th, 2015, 02:10 PM   #1887
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So the choice is between a serious streetcar option and some limited use toy tram loop option?
....I think the options are the same, and only differ after Flower St., from my reading of the map.
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Old October 4th, 2015, 07:53 AM   #1888
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Streetcars without dedicated ROWs are pointless
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Old October 4th, 2015, 11:35 AM   #1889
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YouTube recommended this video yesterday after looking up some stuff about LA. It's basically a commercial by the city of West Hollywood, advising about road closures, through the medium of drag queens. I guess it has to do with Metro works?

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Old October 5th, 2015, 06:53 AM   #1890
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I guess it has to do with Metro works
According to this article, the WeHo closures were related to the Sunset|La Cienega project:

West Hollywood Has Made the Best Ever Street Closure Notice
source: Curbed LA

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Starting Monday and lasting until the middle of September, La Cienega between Sunset Boulevard and Fountain Avenue in West Hollywood is closing down to allow for work related to the big Sunset|La Cienega project...
http://la.curbed.com/archives/2015/0...re_wehoans.php

Hysterical. Now I just want drag queens to announce all of the major road closures. Then maybe people would pay attention to them...
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Old October 7th, 2015, 10:08 PM   #1891
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http://www.ipernity.com/doc/expo-line/39895450

GREAT shot of the EXPO Line DTSM Station with the Plaza almost complete.

http://www.ipernity.com/doc/expo-line/39895446

A pic shot of the new floor compass....

So Cool...
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Old October 9th, 2015, 01:45 AM   #1892
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Five rail lines Metro could build with $120 billion in new sales tax revenue
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...007-story.html

If LA County votes to extend Measure R and adopt Measure R2 (+.5% sale tax) we can build:

Sepulveda Pass Subway
Subway to the Sea
Crenshaw Line to Hollywood
LAX People Mover
Convert Orange Line to Rail
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Old October 9th, 2015, 03:02 AM   #1893
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Five rail lines Metro could build with $120 billion in new sales tax revenue
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...007-story.html

If LA County votes to extend Measure R and adopt Measure R2 (+.5% sale tax) we can build:

Sepulveda Pass Subway
Subway to the Sea
Crenshaw Line to Hollywood
LAX People Mover
Convert Orange Line to Rail
That's not enough and the people mover should be funded with Airport Fees...
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Old October 9th, 2015, 08:41 AM   #1894
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That's not enough and the people mover should be funded with Airport Fees...
That's not enough? That would be a world-class system for Los Angeles
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Old October 9th, 2015, 09:15 AM   #1895
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That's not enough? That would be a world-class system for Los Angeles
120 billion should be split like this 100 billion for Transit and 20 billion for Highways..

Transit projects that you can build with 80 billion
-Sepulveda Pass Subway
-Subway to the Sea
-Crenshaw Line to Hollywood
-LAX People Mover
-Convert Orange Line to Rail
-Grade/Freight seperation of Metrolinks commuter rail network
-RER Electrified Metrolinks system
-Metro Red/Purple line extension to Montebello under Whitter Boulevard
-Metro Pink Subway servicing Santa Monica - WeHo - Dodger Stadium - East LA
-Gold line extension to the San Gabriel River (east side)
-Green line extension to the South Bay
-Green Line extension to Buena Park or La Habra
-Burbank to glendale LRT line
-Metro Red line extension to Burbank
-Metrolink extension to Santa Barbara
-DT LA Streetcar system
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Old October 9th, 2015, 08:32 PM   #1896
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One of our problems is that a majority of the respondents to Metro's polls (gauging interest on backing the tax hike in 2016) have placed improvements to the roads and highways as their no. 1 priority. I don't know just how much that will sway what Metro actually does with the money if they can get the measure to pass, but I have to think more than $20B of the $120B will go to roads and highways, limiting what will ultimately be spent on rail.

But I do think it's realistic that we will be able to fund several (if not all) of those projects you listed with the measure, and that the Times was simply focusing on a handful of the most high-profile ones.
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One of our problems is that a majority of the respondents to Metro's polls (gauging interest on backing the tax hike in 2016) have placed improvements to the roads and highways as their no. 1 priority. I don't know just how much that will sway what Metro actually does with the money if they can get the measure to pass, but I have to think more than $20B of the $120B will go to roads and highways, limiting what will ultimately be spent on rail.

But I do think it's realistic that we will be able to fund several (if not all) of those projects you listed with the measure, and that the Times was simply focusing on a handful of the most high-profile ones.
The more people you reach with your system , the more they will support it over highways. LA's system is very small relative to the metro size and I think the lack of rapid expansion on a metro level shifts people over to highways. I'm not sure there's much you can do with Highways in LA , I think roads need to got on a road diet and include Bus /Bike lanes.
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All very true. That's why I think the Expo Phase II can't open fast enough. The sooner people in the moneyed (and politically powerful) areas start to see the positives of transit in their own lives, the quicker we'll be able to build. And as the network starts to consolidate into a farther reaching, coherent system, that public good will should reach a critical mass.

Heh, road diets are their own monster, which may be harder for people to get behind en masse. Drivers in those neighborhoods experimenting with them are already losing their shit.
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Old October 10th, 2015, 02:13 AM   #1899
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Yes, we would love to see all $120b go to rail and other mass transit, but we are constrained by political realities. Nonetheless, the picture is changing. Not only will the opening of the Expo Line Phase II March-June 2016 be crucial in getting Westsiders on board, but also the Gold Line Extension which should be politically popular in the San Gabriel Valley, if not in ridership. Further, the Valley is actively lobbying for rail after strongly opposing before. South LA wants rail, as do the Gateway Cities in SE. The South Bay is a region that did not have strong support for Measure R, but if we can make the case in other areas, we should have a good shot.
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Five rail lines Metro could build with $120 billion in new sales tax revenue
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...007-story.html

If LA County votes to extend Measure R and adopt Measure R2 (+.5% sale tax) we can build:

Sepulveda Pass Subway
Subway to the Sea
Crenshaw Line to Hollywood
LAX People Mover
Convert Orange Line to Rail
All in LA City proper...Hope this flies with Bay Cities...How much of the Sepulveda Pass Subway? No phases please. It should be done from Orange line, to UCLA down to LAX. Also the Pink Line..Drool! Ill vote yes to this!
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