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Old December 16th, 2008, 04:40 PM   #2041
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Old December 16th, 2008, 05:04 PM   #2042
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Thank you, Timon!!!!
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Old December 18th, 2008, 02:50 PM   #2043
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Note that there are intermediate limits all the way from 15km/h (on 'living' streets), 30km/h zones in urban residential areas, 60km/h zones on rural non-thoroughfares, 70km/h on urban thoroughfares and recently short 90km/h signs on motorways for legal reasons. It's a mess.
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Old December 18th, 2008, 05:07 PM   #2044
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And of course 80 or 100 km/h on the provincial roads, and 80, 100 and 120 km/h on the motorways. Normally the matrix signs over the motorway indicate 50, but that's a completely different story
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Old December 20th, 2008, 02:37 PM   #2045
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Considering that the A6/A9 connection won't be there, are there any plans to upgrade the Gaasperdammerweg (A9 Holendrecht-Diemen)?
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Old December 20th, 2008, 10:18 PM   #2046
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Yes, it will be widened. One proposal is the Kamelenvariant (Camelvariant) The name comes from the way it looks like from the side, two tunnels and a humb in the middle:


Bigger version (PDF file) http://www.zuidoost.amsterdam.nl/asp...lenvariant.pdf

It should be a Dromedaris though because there is only one humb

Map with the proposed widenings of the motorways southeast of Amsterdam:
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Old December 25th, 2008, 12:11 PM   #2047
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Interesting news today about the recent fuel prices;

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More fuel tanked despite higher gas prices

The high fuel prices in the first three quarters of 2008 did not caused a drop in fuel usage, in contrast, the fuel consumption went up a little compared to the same period in 2007.


That shows a recent publication of the Central Bureau of Statistics (CBS). During the first nine months, 10.2 billion liters of fuel were consumed as opposed to 10.1 billion liters a year before. That is an increase of 0.9%. The increase was because of diesel, because the petrol usage went down a little.

The amount of petrol used dropped 0.9%, and diesel usage went up by 2.2%. Most liters still go to trucks, but more and more personal vehicles drive on diesel.

Meanwhile, after the first 8 months of 2008, prices collapsed at the pump, reaching € 1,69 per liter or $ 10 per gallon in June, while prices are now down to € 1,20 per liter or $ 5.9 per gallon at the end of December.

Despite the much lower gas prices, people did also not drive a lot more recently. Ofcourse more people take other transportation options for short grocery-store drives, but that's very marginal on the total consumption, main economist Michiel Vergeer said. The lower price might encourage people to go on winter holidays with their car instead of an airplane.
It is interesting because it shows that mobility is not as price-elastic as many think. This is of an important value in the current electronic toll proposals discussions in the Netherlands, since it is assumed that people would drive less if their cost per kilometer increase. The gas price increase between 2003 and 2008 was more than the electronic tolls would have done to more expensive kilometers, so it's doubtful again if the very expensive implementation and operation of the electronic tolls would be justifiable to the result.
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Old December 25th, 2008, 01:39 PM   #2048
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Doesn't this say that we still depend on our cars too much?
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Old December 25th, 2008, 01:59 PM   #2049
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In some way, yes. But there's also not a way to lower the cardepency in a cost efficient way. I don't think "toll 'em to death" is very good for the economy. People don't like to give up the convenience of their own transportation instead of relying on something you can't control.
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Old December 25th, 2008, 02:31 PM   #2050
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It is interesting because it shows that mobility is not as price-elastic as many think.
and it shows that most of the people arent joyriding but do their job...

and an iteresting paradoxon: those who has time to joyride (b/c no job) has no money to buy fuel...
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Old December 28th, 2008, 04:29 PM   #2051
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Man alive, another new sign near Arnhem city. I doubt if there are more announcement signs with distances like these in the Netherlands.
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I also saw this new signs in the Haarlemmermeer (not as posted above, but just the new sings)
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Old December 29th, 2008, 05:03 PM   #2053
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The traffic jam pressure (length multiplied by time) dropped 1.4% this year, the first drop in years. This was mostly because of slightly fewer traffic jams during the evening rushhour. Traffic made a swift from rushhours to non-rushhours, because the traffic jam pressure increased by 4% between rushhours. This also means our road network has reached the absolute saturation point. The busiest day was March 25th with 888 kilometers of traffic jam, according to the ANWB tourism and automobile association.
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Zwolle-Zuid (South) Tour

A drive through Zwolle-Zuid the largest residential neighborhood of Zwolle with 35,000 inhabitants.

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N50 Zwolle - Emmeloord

A drive on the Northbound N50, the major highway connecting the city of Zwolle with Kampen and Emmeloord.

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Old December 30th, 2008, 07:53 PM   #2056
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What are these magnet needle shaped markings on the road?

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N50 Zwolle - Emmeloord
Boooring, 2x1, noone is overtaking
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Old December 30th, 2008, 08:00 PM   #2057
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What are these magnet needle shaped markings on the road?
I'm not sure what you mean, can you give me a timeframe where you see it?

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It's 2+1 It was really quiet on the roads today. Holiday time, nearly no traffic jams today.
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I'm not sure what you mean, can you give me a timeframe where you see it?
1:00, just before this Peugeot turs right.

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It's 2+1
So only Scandinavians are crazy enough to make 2x1 roads
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Oh what you see are either brick or painted "traffic droplets". There are placed to make it clearer there's a turn in the road. It's also a traffic calming object, since it is believed it gives slower speed, hence fewer people take their car. (I actually can't believe experts accept that kind of thought).
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The first real workday of the year starts off with 1.200 kilometers of traffic jam
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