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Old January 11th, 2009, 05:48 PM   #2101
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What?! You can skate in the Netherlands and we can't in Estonia? Climate changes suck!
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Old January 11th, 2009, 05:50 PM   #2102
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The shoulder seems extremely wide. Does it follow NL standards?
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Old January 11th, 2009, 06:03 PM   #2103
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Yeah, normal shoulder width here is at least 3.5 m
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Old January 11th, 2009, 06:05 PM   #2104
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What do you guys mean by 'shoulder'? Maybe a stupid question, but I want to know
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Old January 11th, 2009, 06:06 PM   #2105
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Vluchtstrook. Emergency lane is also a term, but shoulder is more widely used I guess.
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Old January 11th, 2009, 06:06 PM   #2106
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What do you guys mean by 'shoulder'? Maybe a stupid question, but I want to know
The area of paved road to the right of the edge line, the part that is not used for through travel but is sometimes used for emergency stopping.
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Old January 11th, 2009, 06:10 PM   #2107
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Ok. Thanks
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Old January 11th, 2009, 07:35 PM   #2108
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A28 Zwolle - Hoogeveen

A drive of 45 kilometers from Hattem via Zwolle to the Hoogeveen cloverleaf.

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Old January 11th, 2009, 08:16 PM   #2109
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Vluchtstrook. Emergency lane is also a term, but shoulder is more widely used I guess.
Or Spitstrook
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Old January 11th, 2009, 08:38 PM   #2110
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As soon as the shoulder is used as a peak lane yeah.
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Old January 11th, 2009, 09:36 PM   #2111
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Generally speaking it is a "vluchtstrook", "spitsstrook" only in case it is used as a peak lane. Luckily most motorways have shoulders, that makes it much safer. It's at least better then nothing.
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Old January 11th, 2009, 09:44 PM   #2112
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We have also a "plus lane", which is a peak hour lane on the left. Their design vary, the one on A28 near Zwolle is extremely narrow (2.5 m) and the one on A1 near Deventer seems near-regular width.
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Old January 11th, 2009, 09:44 PM   #2113
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A28 near Zwolle:

Sunday traffic:
[img]http://i41.************/10xf59g.jpg[/img]

regular traffic:
[img]http://i42.************/30bmpes.jpg[/img]
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Old January 12th, 2009, 06:09 PM   #2114
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Busy on A2:
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Old January 12th, 2009, 06:11 PM   #2115
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Is it ever quiet?
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Every day Snow , Ice , Rain in holland
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Old January 12th, 2009, 06:12 PM   #2117
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The next 10km on that webcam is actually the spot with the most traffic jams in the Netherlands. There were 278,930 minutes that there was 1 km of traffic jam.
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Old January 12th, 2009, 10:46 PM   #2118
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Funny, the "Achterhoek" (rural area in eastern Netherlands) advertised throughout the country with German-style signs.





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Old January 12th, 2009, 11:10 PM   #2119
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I only went there twice. Once on a bike trip, and once by train. I didn't really like it though
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Old January 12th, 2009, 11:13 PM   #2120
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No, it's boring as hell, pastures with small wooded areas and no interesting towns. But in the eye of the urban Randstad-inhabitants who never saw a cow it's interesting. It's some kind of legend that people from the Randstad think milk is produced at a factory, they don't know it comes from cows
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