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Old January 12th, 2009, 11:18 PM   #2121
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When I went there by train I went to Winterswijk with a friend. When we got there the first thing we thought was "when is the first train going back out of this place"
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Old January 12th, 2009, 11:48 PM   #2122
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Yeah Winterswijk really is el culo del mundo, van Gogh used to live there though.
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Old January 13th, 2009, 07:15 PM   #2123
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Really, in the Netherlands? I've never seen that over here.

You mean something like this:

[IMG]http://i39.************/35l9air.jpg[/IMG]
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Yes, exactly like that.

Location: N307 Dronten - Kampen (Flevoland part)
From the Roadside rest area.

I actually took a picture of it a while ago.
[IMG]http://i42.************/14ikdgn.jpg[/IMG]
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Old January 15th, 2009, 12:21 PM   #2124
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No, it's boring as hell
Says the guy from Zwolle.................
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Old January 15th, 2009, 05:00 PM   #2125
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I didn't say Zwolle is a bustling city
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Old January 15th, 2009, 05:52 PM   #2126
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Abcoude is way more interesting than Zwolle




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Old January 15th, 2009, 06:58 PM   #2127
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A1 a.k.a Warschauer Allee

Warsaw Alley. Called that way because of the amount of Polish truckers, and the E30 eventually went to Warszawa.

Part I

1. Arderweg viaduct.
[img]http://i39.************/2ahxl3.jpg[/img]

2. Arderweg.
[img]http://i40.************/29ooaa9.jpg[/img]

3. Spitsstrook camera.
[img]http://i42.************/2ymzrfc.jpg[/img]

4. Arderweg.
[img]http://i42.************/2a84uu1.jpg[/img]

5. Trucks, trucks, trucks.
[img]http://i44.************/29aqvs2.jpg[/img]

6. Arderweg.
[img]http://i43.************/2ui87ll.jpg[/img]

7. Beltdinkdijk viaduct bij Bathmen.
[img]http://i40.************/21481hj.jpg[/img]

8. Beltinkdijk.
[img]http://i39.************/69m4on.jpg[/img]

9. Beltdinkdijk, parkeerplaats.
[img]http://i40.************/23kagas.jpg[/img]

10. Globetrotter in action.
[img]http://i41.************/4qotbt.jpg[/img]

11. Beusebergerweg bij Holten.
[img]http://i44.************/30at6kj.jpg[/img]

12. Beusebergerweg.
[img]http://i42.************/fe19x3.jpg[/img]

13. Parking Holten.
[img]http://i40.************/o8hykz.jpg[/img]

14. Larenseweg bij Holten.
[img]http://i41.************/2wdo76s.jpg[/img]

15. Inhalende trucks.
[img]http://i42.************/2njhop4.jpg[/img]

16. Actie zal niet gewaardeerd worden door de tientallen auto's erachter.
[img]http://i39.************/2czaas2.jpg[/img]

17. Truck alley.
[img]http://i44.************/eijaci.jpg[/img]

18. Afslag Holten.
[img]http://i39.************/biq9gk.jpg[/img]
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Old January 15th, 2009, 07:43 PM   #2128
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Part II

19. Markeloseweg.
[img]http://i41.************/w20qk5.jpg[/img]

20. Parking Holten.
[img]http://i40.************/2zeihs5.jpg[/img]

21. Marsdijk.
[img]http://i41.************/a0ylb6.jpg[/img]

22. Marsdijk
[img]http://i44.************/50k109.jpg[/img]

23. Oxersteeg bij Deventer-Oost.
[img]http://i39.************/3145icx.jpg[/img]

24. Oxersteeg
[img]http://i44.************/9734us.jpg[/img]

25. Afslag Deventer-Oost.
[img]http://i40.************/2n8vmr.jpg[/img]

26. Sluinerweg bij Voorst.
[img]http://i39.************/25k5rgz.jpg[/img]

27. Sluinerweg.
[img]http://i41.************/153ptl2.jpg[/img]

28. Voor aansluiting Voorst.
[img]http://i43.************/raxicg.jpg[/img]

29. Tot teleurstelling van velen zal de spitsstrook niet open zijn.
[img]http://i41.************/2jbaq0.jpg[/img]
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Old January 15th, 2009, 09:03 PM   #2129
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A1 a.k.a Warschauer Allee
No kidding Is it offcially approved?

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What is sluinerweg?
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Old January 15th, 2009, 09:04 PM   #2130
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Yes.....





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Old January 15th, 2009, 09:06 PM   #2131
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Sluinerweg is just some local road crossing the A1. Most Dutch road names are stupid anyway. I like German and English road names way better.

Well, I don't think it's officially the Warschauer Allee, since we normally do not name motorways, but I think the name is appropriate. The German A2 has also been called that (I wrote a bit about it on my blog). Most non Dutch trucks there are Polish.
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Old January 15th, 2009, 09:12 PM   #2132
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Sluinerweg is just some local road crossing the A1.
OK, bad guess. Why this additional lane in the middle being closed when there is a heavy traffic(non-dutch standards) and what it is for?
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Old January 15th, 2009, 09:20 PM   #2133
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That's a Spitsstrook

It's closed because this is not seen as heavy traffic in the Netherlands. It is only to be opened if there would be congestion otherwise. They should change it into a regular lane in my opinion.
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Old January 15th, 2009, 09:24 PM   #2134
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Does narrowing the road when there is 'low' traffic make any sense whatsoever? Differen markings, red crosses on signs every xx meters. What for?
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Old January 15th, 2009, 09:28 PM   #2135
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Rules, and rules only. It makes no sense at all I know, but this country is literally drowned in rules that go beyond any pratical approach.

The costs of a spitsstrook are eventually higher than a normal lane, because they have to be monitored 24/7 with camera's and the additional electronic signage that's required isn't really cheap either. The initial investment is a bit lower, but the operational costs are far higher than a regular lane.
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Old January 15th, 2009, 09:39 PM   #2136
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From now on the very first place in moronic road ideas

It's so unbelivebly stupid I don't know what to say.
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Old January 15th, 2009, 10:28 PM   #2137
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Most Dutch road names are stupid anyway.
Have a look in this neighbourhood
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Old January 15th, 2009, 11:15 PM   #2138
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From now on the very first place in moronic road ideas

It's so unbelivebly stupid I don't know what to say.
Still better than nothing at all, which would have been the alternative.
Spitsstroken could be constructed a lot faster because of some loopholes is the law.
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Old January 15th, 2009, 11:24 PM   #2139
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Heavy traffic lane? WTF? Yeah, that's really the dumbest idea I've heard of.

What's the fine for driving in that lane anyway?
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Old January 15th, 2009, 11:27 PM   #2140
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Really, a lot of money. If one person starts driving there, more people will follow. It's really a stupid idea. There is nothing wrong with 2×3, except in the Netherlands, as it seems

-edit- Driving over the shoulder just to overtake traffic will cost you €200. I think that it might be the same as for using a closed Spitsstrook.
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