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Old January 23rd, 2009, 03:02 PM   #2181
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traffic jam = < 50 km/h for at least 2 kilometers in NL.
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 03:11 PM   #2182
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70 km/h in the TomTom reports right?
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 03:15 PM   #2183
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Only for the yellow parts in TomTom HD traffic on motorways with a 120 km/h speed limit.
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 08:59 PM   #2184
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Significant problems in the Den Bosch area today. The northbound A2 was closed just north of Den Bosch because the entire roadway came loose. Recently, numerous locations faced damaged pavement due to the combination of freezing weather and insufficient asphalt (porous asphalt concrete is not suitable for long freezing periods). Right now, over 60 locations have reported damages pavements.

The A2 was closed and caused a virtual gridlock in the region, the deviation motorway of A59 was jammed on it's entire length that was used for detouring traffic (31 kilometers), as well as the A27 nortbound motorway which was jammed over 16 kilometers. In total, northbound drivers had to negotiate over 50 kilometers of traffic jams. The regional road network is now, around 20.00 hours still jammed near Den Bosch.
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 08:59 PM   #2185
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we are about to widen the M0 south to 2x3+1 in a project financed by the EU by 85%...
Enjoy it while it lasts.
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 09:24 PM   #2186
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M0 should be finished, then it would be even better
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 10:02 PM   #2187
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The A73 is a new motorway connecting Venlo to the A2 south of Roermond, it has 2 tunnels, which have been a problem child from the beginning. They are partially opened with one lane per direction and close all the time due to too high trucks being registered. Limburgian broadcasting station L1 kept count, and has published that the two tunnels have been closed 880 times in the last 11 months.
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 10:09 PM   #2188
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The A73 is a new motorway connecting Venlo to the A2 south of Roermond, it has 2 tunnels, which have been a problem child from the beginning. They are partially opened with one lane per direction and close all the time due to too high trucks being registered. Limburgian broadcasting station L1 kept count, and has published that the two tunnels have been closed 880 times in the last 11 months.
That's nearly three times a day!
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 10:11 PM   #2189
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In weekends they're always closed AFAIK. It's time for this problems to get fixed, this situation is laughable
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 10:30 PM   #2190
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I know those tunnels. They suck hard.. They are near Roermond, they were even closed in the middle of the summer vacation, just at the time that we had to pass through them..
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 10:53 PM   #2191
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Are you kiddin' me? How come such a low clearance was designed for those tunnels?
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Old January 23rd, 2009, 10:55 PM   #2192
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Cheapskate Netherlands at it's best.
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Old January 24th, 2009, 12:02 AM   #2193
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... Limburgian broadcasting station L1 kept count, and has published that the two tunnels have been closed 880 times in the last 11 months.
Whoa, then I should be happy I managed to drive thru them last year in november And I was really wondering why is there only one lane opened - are they going to open it fully anytime this year? With the A52 being finished, it will be a quite good choice to travel from Ruhrgebiet to Belgium...

BTW the N280 is a quite nice expwy there, shame there are traffic lights on the junction with A73, not enough space for a complete interchange?
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Old January 24th, 2009, 12:06 AM   #2194
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BTW the N280 is a quite nice expwy there, shame there are traffic lights on the junction with A73, not enough space for a complete interchange?
Netherlands = stupid rules country.

Motorways are not supposed to have full interchanges with other roads.

Really, I can't believe which moron makes up these stupid rules.

Look at this exit near Schiphol airport: It could've been a nice trumpet or curve, but they choose a 90 degrees turn instead.

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Look at this exit near Schiphol airport: It could've been a nice trumpet or curve, but they choose a 90 degrees turn instead.

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Old January 24th, 2009, 12:18 AM   #2196
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Look at this exit near Schiphol airport: It could've been a nice trumpet or curve, but they choose a 90 degrees turn instead.
Yeah, stupid, but we have such a curve as well )) But it has at least some history of project changes, so we know why:

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=5...09656&t=k&z=17

and just close to it on a ring road a missing collector lane with a stop sign

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=5...09656&t=k&z=17

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Old January 24th, 2009, 12:50 AM   #2197
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Netherlands = stupid rules country.

Motorways are not supposed to have full interchanges with other roads.
Why is that? The "Let's make life for motorists one hell of a nightmare" logic?

If I remember correctly there's also that rule that forbids buidling separate-grade intersections within city limits in NL, innit?
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Old January 24th, 2009, 12:55 AM   #2198
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I'm not sure if there's a rule about that, but they hardly do grade-separated intersections in urban NL. Which is why even our smaller cities have too much congestion. 2 km of the N35 2x2 at grade beltway sometimes cost 20 minutes while my city has a population of only 117,000....
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Old January 24th, 2009, 01:05 AM   #2199
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I've seen that before there and there is one strange thing for me, it seems like that upper aitport service road and the on-ramp to A4 southbound were originally planed to make one continuous curve.

There is an additional asphalt laid on the left side of the ramp and the airport service road also makes some strange curve before it ends as 2x2.

Maybe plans were changed somehow? Or is there going to be some change in future? I just don't believe that these projects were such stupid (at least not originally)...
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I've seen newer junctions constructed this way.

For instance the new N36 south end on the A35 motorway near Almelo.
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