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Old January 25th, 2009, 09:35 PM   #2221
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I don't see a reason why there should be speed limit of 30 km/h when there is such a clear view for drivers and bicycles have their own lanes.
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Old January 25th, 2009, 10:00 PM   #2222
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Our government really traffic to run as slow as possible, that's why
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Old January 25th, 2009, 10:01 PM   #2223
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Yeah our government is as hypocrite as possible, whining about every 0.1 microgramme of PM10, while letting cars idle deliberatly is policy?
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Old January 26th, 2009, 09:23 AM   #2224
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This kind of thinking permeates US planning too. There's a perverse mindset rooted in the 1970's that sees the car as the root of all evil, so anything that punishes drivers must be good. They think if you make things miserable enough for drivers they'll walk or take the bus instead (though this clearly hasn't happened). It completely fails to recognize the progress that's been made in cleaning up car exhausts, or the fact the best way to minimize emissions is to minimize slowing and stopping, and try to keep cars moving steadily at 30 mph/50 kmh or higher, where they use the least fuel per mi/km.
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Old January 26th, 2009, 10:37 AM   #2225
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The only way I would support such mind-numbingly stupid design is if the artificial lane blockages and central reservation were constructed from several "planners" all tied together and cemented to the ground. Then I'd run one of these down the road:

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Okay, that might be a little extreme

Anyway, do speed cameras operate on roads with a 30km/h speed limit?
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Old January 26th, 2009, 11:43 AM   #2226
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Chris - you have to stop bitching about our motorways. I live in Zeeland (the South) and I frequently drive into Belgium - our roads are heaven compared to what the Belgians are forced to drive on
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Old January 26th, 2009, 05:48 PM   #2227
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Yep! Maybe the best in the world.

And considering they are that busy.. they are not jammed at all!
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Old January 26th, 2009, 06:20 PM   #2228
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Some suckertrucker was driving a 4.3 meter high combination, which he had to get a clearance with a designated route for, and he took another route, via the Schiphol tunnel, which is 4 m high. He took down 6 matrix overheads, 50 lightingapplications and a bunch of audio installations in the tunnel. 3 carowners reported damage due to road furniture flying around.
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Old January 26th, 2009, 06:37 PM   #2229
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Truck drivers shouldn't be allowed to have independent thoughts. Just stay on your designated route and don't leave the slow lane
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Old January 26th, 2009, 07:10 PM   #2230
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Not going to add a third rhyme to that?

Seriously though, one for the "stupidity on your roads" thread.
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Old January 26th, 2009, 07:15 PM   #2231
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Yeah, accident day today. This morning five trucks collided on the A27. Noone injured though.
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Old January 26th, 2009, 09:00 PM   #2232
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This is for people with a REALLY short memory:



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Old January 26th, 2009, 09:03 PM   #2233
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Yeah, accident day today. This morning five trucks collided on the A27. Noone injured though.
Yes, it was nice. I had more than an hour to enjoy the view over a river from a bridge
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Old January 26th, 2009, 10:03 PM   #2234
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Must be fun

Didn't your customer get pissed? You're a taxidriver right?
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Old January 28th, 2009, 05:20 PM   #2235
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Let's show some widening works of the A2 motorway. It's not like NOTHING is happening in NL to improve traffic, although it might sound that way sometimes.

The A2 is being widened for most of it's length between Amsterdam and Eindhoven, that's about 90 kilometers. Work has been split up in several areas.

This is about the future configuration:

Amsterdam - Utrecht 2x5
Utrecht 4x3
Utrecht - Deil 2x4
Den Bosch 4x2
Eindhoven 2+3+3+2

Hopefully, they also begin with Den Bosch - Eindhoven and Deil - Den Bosch, since those will otherwise be the only 2x2 sections between Amsterdam and Eindhoven.

Some pictures, by PW100, member of the Dutch autosnelwegen forum, we would like to thank him for his great pics.

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This is how the N201 is gonna look near Vinkeveen. Notice the left emergency lanes and huge median.
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Old January 28th, 2009, 05:24 PM   #2236
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When I drove over the ringroad Eindhoven (A67 --> A2 --> A58) a month ago, it seemed very chaotic to me. I hope that this will improve soon. At least this chaos indicates that they are working on it.
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Old January 28th, 2009, 05:28 PM   #2237
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This is how the N201 is gonna look near Vinkeveen. Notice the left emergency lanes and huge median.
That junction looks nice. You can see some of the widening works taking place from above on Google Maps:

http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=q&s...47507&t=k&z=15
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Old January 28th, 2009, 05:35 PM   #2238
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That is very outdated. The section where you see sand over here, is already being used.
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Old January 28th, 2009, 05:46 PM   #2239
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When I drove over the ringroad Eindhoven (A67 --> A2 --> A58) a month ago, it seemed very chaotic to me. I hope that this will improve soon. At least this chaos indicates that they are working on it.
Actually, I noticed the traffic is flowing quite nicely, even during rushhour. Mostly, because the beltway of Eindhoven had only 2x2 lanes until 2004, when a peak hour lane was opened (nearly permanently). Since that one opened, traffic jams were signficantly shorter. From 2004 to 2011, there will be a widening from 2x2 to 4x2 or 2+3+3+2 lanes (not sure).

The only problem is the massive amount of accidents on the Eindhoven beltway, it's usually closed for at least once a day, causing huge delays.
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Old January 28th, 2009, 07:24 PM   #2240
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This is how the N201 is gonna look near Vinkeveen. Notice the left emergency lanes and huge median.
5 lanes each direction!! WOW!
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