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Old March 12th, 2009, 11:29 AM   #2421
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However, a recent published study by the "Central Planning Bureau" showed 90% of the trips taken with a car takes twice the time with public transportation.
I live in a small village (2000 residents) in the Budapest agglomeration.

sometimes a return trip to the local administrative center town takes 10 times the time with PT... (7hours instead of 40minutes)
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Old March 12th, 2009, 11:44 AM   #2422
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Yeah, but I don't think that is representative for the entire region, or whole day...
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Old March 12th, 2009, 11:47 AM   #2423
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^ It's good that politicians in Poland are very keen on of the new roads.
in hungary too...
the bad news: they are not keen on old roads, and they are keen only on new motorways.
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Old March 12th, 2009, 12:30 PM   #2424
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Some pictures of Zwolle:

1. Beltway N337
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2. Approaching the most important motorway exit in Zwolle (exit Zwolle-South)
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3. It's a traffic light controlled roundabout with 4 lanes (3 on the roundabout itself)
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4. Highest office tower in Zwolle: 95m
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5. Entering the motorway in the northbound direction.
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6. Entrance Zwolle-Zuid merges onto the exit Zwolle-Centrum
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7. New office complex along the motorway.
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8. Next exit is Zwolle-Noord, the entrance of Zwolle-Centrum continues in the next exit, de facto creating 4 lanes during rushhour. That lane on the left looks like a shoulder, but is an additional lane during rushhour.
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9. Notice the N35 number is missing on the right sign.
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10. Next exit is called Ommen, but is situated inside the city of Zwolle. This onramp also continues in a 2 long weaving lane into the offramp of exit Ommen.

Also, notice the distance to Groningen decreased 4 km while we are in fact less than 1 kilometer further than the previous sign.
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11. From here, the A28 continues as an overloaded 2x2 motorway to the north. Widening to 2x3 lanes is forecast to begin in 1,5 years.
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Old March 12th, 2009, 03:21 PM   #2425
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Great pictures, Chris, thanks! I'm really beginning to like the Dutch signage. That spitstrook looks very narrow, though.
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Old March 12th, 2009, 03:28 PM   #2426
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That spitstrook looks very narrow, though.
Yeah it sucks bigtime. When traffic flows, nearly nobody is on it, except when there is stationary traffic...
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Old March 12th, 2009, 03:38 PM   #2427
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How can that be so narrow, wouldn't that cause an accident or fender bender @ low speeds? Looks like an overflow Bike lane , to releave bike path traffic snarls!
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Old March 12th, 2009, 04:17 PM   #2428
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Chris, what part of the A28 will be 2×3? Just from Zwolle to interchange Lankhorst?
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Old March 12th, 2009, 05:23 PM   #2429
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Interchange Hattemerbroek - Zwolle-Zuid => 2x4
Zwolle-Zuid - Ommen => current configuration
Ommen - Interchange Lankhorst => 2x3
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Old March 12th, 2009, 06:13 PM   #2430
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Nice pics. Are tractors allowed on the Zwolle beltway?
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Old March 12th, 2009, 06:16 PM   #2431
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They are on this small section. This photo covers the entire section where tractors are allowed, to get from downtown in the direction of Wezep/Hattem, since the road to the left is the only crossing of the river IJssel in the region which tractors are allowed to use.
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Old March 12th, 2009, 07:40 PM   #2432
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Typical Randstadmania again this afternoon:
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longest traffic jam is 49 kilometers at the moment, from Amsterdam to Beesd on A2.
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Old March 12th, 2009, 08:35 PM   #2433
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The city center of Abcoude is jammed because of rat running
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Old March 12th, 2009, 08:50 PM   #2434
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Because of what?

Guess it doesn't take a lot to gridlock Abcoude though, just block that one and only street
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Old March 12th, 2009, 09:04 PM   #2435
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Shut up

Rat running = traffic that wants to avoid the congested A2
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Old March 12th, 2009, 10:23 PM   #2436
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I don't get it, how do those drivers want to avoid A2 in the first place? There's no alternative route unless they want to drive this narrow, windy road towards this village with world-famous gas station
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And that's the road they're driving on
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Old March 12th, 2009, 10:45 PM   #2438
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Exactly. Don't ask me why, but those people do it

Anyway, the world famous gas station is not in Abcoude, it's in Loenersloot, a city just a few kilometers south
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Why? It's the best way to avoid traffic, unless all decide to do so
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There is no such thing as avoiding a traffic jam via another road in the Netherlands.
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