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Old March 19th, 2009, 10:55 PM   #2501
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The unbuild ones
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Old March 19th, 2009, 10:59 PM   #2502
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Old March 19th, 2009, 11:43 PM   #2503
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I'd love to see the A4 Midden-Delfland. Unfortunately it doesn't exist yet

I did the same route by train today, by the way
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Old March 20th, 2009, 09:59 AM   #2504
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I have a lot of pictures of that missing part of the A4. I will post them tonight or tomorrow.
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Old March 20th, 2009, 10:02 AM   #2505
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I'd love to see the A4 Midden-Delfland. Unfortunately it doesn't exist yet

I did the same route by train today, by the way
will it be ever build?
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Old March 20th, 2009, 12:20 PM   #2506
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That is a big question here
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Old March 20th, 2009, 12:40 PM   #2507
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Oh, a hill.

Do you have any more "hilly" motorways? (I admit I didn't look whole 3 threads)
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Old March 20th, 2009, 01:03 PM   #2508
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Well, some motorways have a gentle slope like here and on A50 Apeldoorn - Arnhem, but the most hilly motorways are in southern Limburg province, A2 has a rather steep descent into Maastricht from Geleen, and the A79 even has a "talbrücke". A76 has climbing lanes near Heerlen.
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Old March 20th, 2009, 07:31 PM   #2509
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AFAIK there is some kind of a hill next to the A12 motorway near Bennekom, for the rest I don't know because I don't go there very often.
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Old March 20th, 2009, 09:00 PM   #2510
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As promised, some pictures of this missing link.
I have 2 albums of the A4 Delft-Schiedam.

Album 1: Made 4 April 2006, at Kleinpolderplein, between Vlaardingen and Schiedam and some pictures in the ares "Midden-Delfland" close to the planned part of the A4.

Album 2: A more recent series (26 September 2008) made at the end of the A4 at Delft.

The end of the road...

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Old March 20th, 2009, 09:54 PM   #2511
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Thanks for the pics, Palance. This is probably the best (worst) example of Dutch nimbyism/environmentalism
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Old March 20th, 2009, 09:57 PM   #2512
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Well, they have a point, since the "Midden Delfland" area is a valuable natural area, although I wouldn't call it exactly a National Park style area. It's mostly because of politics that this road hasn't been around for over 40 years.

However, the crazy thing is the entire area around it has been build by now, the massive greenhouses to the west, Rotterdam to the south, small towns that growed together to the east, and Delft/The Hague to the north. But when a road needs to be build space is a problem all the sudden...
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Old March 20th, 2009, 10:49 PM   #2513
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N36 Witte Paal - Almelo

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A journey along the entire N36 motorroad (mostly grade-separated) in eastern Netherlands, from the N34 highway between Ommen and Hardenberg to the A35 motorway near Almelo. Distance: 30km.

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Old March 21st, 2009, 06:33 PM   #2514
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N312 Lochem - Winterswijk

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A drive on the N312 highway, it's a relatively minor highway, despite having an N3xx number. It connects Lochem, Lichtenvoorde and Winterswijk, which are some of the larger population centers in Eastern Gelderland province. The number N312 is signed on only two signs.

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Old March 21st, 2009, 06:52 PM   #2515
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N332 Raalte - Lochem

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A drive on the N332 highway, from Raalte to Lochem, a distance of 28 kilometers. The N332 is one of the highways in this area of the Netherlands that has banned overtaking for many straight stretches. The road is important for people from Zwolle to Hengelo or further, since you can bypass the Nijverdal area.

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Old March 21st, 2009, 07:11 PM   #2516
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N347 Haaksbergen - Ommen

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A drive on the N347 highway, from Haaksbergen to Ommen, a distance of 55 kilometers. The road serves several larger towns, such as Haaksbergen, Goor, Rijssen and Nijverdal. Especially in the Nijverdal/Hellendoorn area, much of it runs through city limits and can be congested around the N35 intersection.

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slowpoke doing 72 km/h and no overtaking here
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Old March 21st, 2009, 07:15 PM   #2517
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Those "R" routes, are those touristic routes? I never see them around here.
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Old March 21st, 2009, 07:18 PM   #2518
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Recreational routes... Some places have them.

* Ommen (r101-r104)
* Schouwen-Duiveland (r101-r112)
* Spaarnwoude (r101-r106)
* Nieuwvliet (r101-r105)
* IJmuiden (r101-r103)

The R-routes are the only kind where the numbers can be reused in other parts of the country.
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Old March 21st, 2009, 07:39 PM   #2519
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What's the point of this? Traffic weaving reduction mania?

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Old March 21st, 2009, 07:56 PM   #2520
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Overtaking becomes more and more forbidden on 2-lane roads here. This is one of the measures to enforce it. It can be worse though, those bumps between the stripes are often a lot bigger. On more and more places they even place a barrier or a median...

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