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Old March 22nd, 2009, 04:26 PM   #2541
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I know about the overtaking, it is dangerous, but on those pictures you can see 100s of meters ahead, so is it really necessery?
or just better be safe then sorry!
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Old March 22nd, 2009, 04:30 PM   #2542
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Well, it probably reduced the amount of overtaking accidents, but it certainly increased the amount of frustrated drivers like Chris, who was stuck behind a slowpoke in a no-overtaking zone
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Old March 22nd, 2009, 04:35 PM   #2543
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With all these senseless solid center lines, you can't make up the really dangerous points anymore. The Dutch driver is not to think, that's done for him
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Old March 22nd, 2009, 07:43 PM   #2544
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How is the Westerscheldetunnel doing? Still making huge losses?
It's been running steady profits. The Province of Zeeland bought all the shares recently - the profits of the Westerscheldetunnel will now be used to pay for the tunnel under Gent-Terneuzen channel.
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Old March 22nd, 2009, 07:47 PM   #2545
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I see. I guess that they don't write about it in the paper if things are running well. The last time I read anything about it, it was still losing a lot of money. Good to hear that it makes some profit now.
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Old March 22nd, 2009, 09:24 PM   #2546
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Of course they won't write that there making a steady profit, otherwise people will demand lower prices I guess.
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Old March 22nd, 2009, 10:57 PM   #2547
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Progress on the A2 near Eindhoven:























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Old March 22nd, 2009, 11:29 PM   #2548
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Motorway A76 was really busy, even when I was there at night... is it always llike that ?
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Old March 22nd, 2009, 11:31 PM   #2549
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Yeah, it's quite a densely populated area over there, half of southern Limburg is urbanized, and so is the area across the German border (Aachen), plus the A76 is a major route from Brussels and Antwerp to Germany.
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Old March 23rd, 2009, 12:06 AM   #2550
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The A76 and the A67 are the only motorways that go from Belgium through the Netherlands to Germany, so both are quite busy. I've driven on the A67 twice, and both times I saw trucks from over ten countries.
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Old March 23rd, 2009, 09:59 AM   #2551
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Design for the N62 tunnel under the Gent-Terneuzen canal.
why a tunnel when there is a bridge already?
or will that bridge be demolished?
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Old March 23rd, 2009, 10:00 AM   #2552
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Progress on the A2 near Eindhoven:
wow. impressive works...
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Old March 23rd, 2009, 10:30 AM   #2553
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AFAIK the N62 is 2×2 (expy), so they have to build sth new anyway.

Yesterday there were long jams on the A1, because the bridge crossing the Amsterdam-Rhine channel near Muiden is currently being reconstructed, so they closed half of the lanes yesterday, causing long jams (up to 11 km) - on a sunday
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Old March 23rd, 2009, 11:33 AM   #2554
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why a tunnel when there is a bridge already?
or will that bridge be demolished?
Because the bridge opens often

Gent - Terneuzen is a rather important shipping channel, Gent has a large port all the way to the Dutch border.
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Old March 23rd, 2009, 04:40 PM   #2555
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AFAIK the N62 is 2×2 (expy), so they have to build sth new anyway.
The bridge is single track, one lane in each direction?
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Old March 23rd, 2009, 04:54 PM   #2556
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AFAIK the N62 is 2×2 (expy), so they have to build sth new anyway.
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The bridge is single track, one lane in each direction?
The N62 is currently mostly 1X1 (on both sides of the Westerschelde). On the North side of the river, it's currently being upgraded to 2x2 and the South side will swiftly follow. The bridge has to go for two reasons:

1) It's currently 1x1 which is insufficient.
2) The infrastructure around the bridge (with intersections and roundabouts) can't handle the ever increasing flow of traffic and causes jams.

Furthermore, the N57 is being upgraded as well (increased to 2x2 on important sections while elsewhere, level intersections are replaced by viaducts etc). The N57 also leads to the Westerscheldetunnel and aforementioned bridge.

It's a serious bottleneck in the North-West traffic routes of Zeeland and it will only get worse.
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Old March 23rd, 2009, 07:22 PM   #2557
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Old March 23rd, 2009, 09:03 PM   #2558
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Because the bridge opens often
oops. I havent seen that...

but in this case there is another question:

why dont they build a higher bridge?
(btw: how high?)

tunnels are justified in special circumstances:

- the navy doesnt want a bridge above its shipping route... (tunnel cost is not a question)

- span should be very large to reduce ship collision probability in the stormy open sea

- in heavily built downtowns the area (and demolition) cost would be too high for the long ramps of a high bridge...
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Old March 23rd, 2009, 09:11 PM   #2559
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Shipping up to 12,5 m is allowed. Since this area is completely flat, a 15m viaduct would make quite an impact on the horizon. That's not necessarily a bad thing though. But Flandres want the canal to accomodate bigger ships, and might even want to pay for the extra costs of the tunnel.
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Old March 24th, 2009, 02:12 AM   #2560
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This is how the N62 probably will look like when completed:

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