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Old July 5th, 2007, 04:44 PM   #261
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Because a very small growth of traffic (like 1 - 2%) is enough to create 10 - 20% more traffic jams. Our roads are FULL. All capacity is taken, even outside rushhours (lowest hour 12.00 - 13.00 is just 10 - 20% less traffic than busiest rushhour).
And as you might know, we have a huge amount of trucks driving from/to Belgium and Germany. And most motorways are still only 2x2 when they require 2x4 lanes. You do the math.

The average motorway near cities have more traffic than the busiest roads in the Ruhr area. Even a city like mine (Zwolle) has 130.000 vehicles a day on the A28 yet the city has only 115.000 inhabitants. The A40 in the Ruhr has 140.000KFZ/tag (AADT) and that's the busiest Autobahn in Western Germany.

Some motorways have over 200.000 vehicles a day and have only 2x3 lanes. So they are jammed most of the time.
Another problem are bridges. As you know we are a flat country with lots of canals and stuff. Most of them have removable bridges in the motorway, dating back from the 60/70's. But they are still in operation, and sometimes even open in rushhours. Within 10 minutes you have like 15km of traffic jam behind it.

So our motorwayinfrastructure isn't outdated, but the capacity of them is.
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Old July 7th, 2007, 10:36 AM   #262
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That is nonsense. On German roads there are an equal number of fatalities/accidents, but they have generally a 20 - 40km/h higher speed limit, or even no speed limit.
Go live in Germany then! You're obsessed and uncapable of reasoning. Ask a surgeon how much difference speed limits make.
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Old July 7th, 2007, 12:46 PM   #263
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I hope to go to the new A37 in a few hours. See if i can make some pics
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Old July 7th, 2007, 04:55 PM   #264
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A37 - B402 Hoogeveen - Meppen
This is the A37, the part Hoogeveen - Interchange Holsloot is one of the most rural motorways in the Netherlands, and also hasn't got a centrer divider or crash barrier. This is very uncommon in the Netherlands. The eastern section from Holsloot to the German border near Zwartemeer is nearing completion. I took this drive because they say the eastbound lanes were completed, but that's just not true.

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Old July 7th, 2007, 04:57 PM   #265
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B402 Meppen - Hoogeveen
And backwards...

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Old July 7th, 2007, 08:17 PM   #266
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This is like driving through US prairies.

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Old July 8th, 2007, 08:57 AM   #267
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Dude, you need to see real US prairies
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Old July 8th, 2007, 06:13 PM   #268
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I agree, it looks a lot more like what one would find driving the Indiana Toll Road/Ohio Turnpike eastward from I-94 at Gary, IN to about the I-90 split at Lorain, OH. It also looks much like the new US 10 freeway/expressway for about 50-60 km west from US 41 at Appleton. It reminds me a lot of the OH 2 freeway in the Port Clinton, OH area, too.

The North American 'prairies' are a semi-arid area and much of it is pool-table flat to the horizon, almost freakish to drive through.

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Old July 8th, 2007, 08:15 PM   #269
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It was the nearest correlation, looking at the middle grass.
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Old July 9th, 2007, 12:20 PM   #270
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Pics of the demolition of an old viaduct on the Eindhoven beltway (A2) they had to completely close off the Highway, which was announced all over the country 2 weeks before.


It says something like; Stay away from Eindhoven this weekend!

Pics by PW100 saturday 07-07-07:






















And the day after that, sunday, the viaduct was gone:













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Old July 11th, 2007, 11:54 AM   #271
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N302 Hoorn - Kootwijk

Hoorn - Enkhuizen - Lelystad - Harderwijk - Kootwijk

This is one of the longest national roads in The Netherlands, and also one of the most varied ones. You go through flat polders, over a 28km long dam, over lakes, and through the foresty Veluwe hills. It connects the A7 with the A1, and is one of the better build-out roads in NL.

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Old July 11th, 2007, 05:59 PM   #272
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^ Must be a great feeling, driving over the dam.
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Old July 11th, 2007, 07:50 PM   #273
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^ Must be a great feeling, driving over the dam.
Yeah i drove 120 km/h there. It felt like 40km/h. So long straight out. The limit is 100 though.
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Old July 11th, 2007, 08:00 PM   #274
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Do you have any ground photos of Afsluitdijk?
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Search at google for 'afsluitdijk' and you'll find many pics, like this one:



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I thought Chris had some of his own.
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Old July 11th, 2007, 10:03 PM   #277
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I thought Chris had some of his own.
However it's quite close to my home (like 130km), i don't drive there often. Last time was 1,5 year ago, didn't made pics then.

But you mean something like this;





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Exactly.
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Old July 18th, 2007, 02:31 AM   #279
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The Hague to Schiphol Airport

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Old July 18th, 2007, 11:07 AM   #280
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The A4 is one of the most diverse motorways in terms of appearing. It has been planned for 40 years between Delft and Schiedam, has 2x3 lanes near Den Haag and Leiden, and goes back in an extremely narrow aquaduct north of Leiden. Then, after interchange Burgerveen, the road 2x5 lanes wide, the widest one-piece road (no parallels) in the Netherlands.
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