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Old November 8th, 2009, 11:46 AM   #3441
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what a visual destruction of landscape...

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Old November 8th, 2009, 12:28 PM   #3442
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That's the Eastern Scheldt storm surge barrier. It protects this part of the Netherlands from flooding during high tides and storm surges. It was build after the 1953 north sea floods. 1,835 people were killed in that flood.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Works
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Old November 9th, 2009, 06:54 PM   #3443
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Did you just fly back to the Netherlands for a day or so to make these pics?
Nah. Those are pics I made during the summer. I think it was in june.
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Old November 10th, 2009, 07:53 PM   #3444
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Green sign in the Netherlands. I think Rijkswaterstaat experimented with it once..

This pic is from the 1988 - 1996 timeframe.
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Old November 10th, 2009, 08:36 PM   #3445
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Doesn't look to bad!
Do you have any more examples?
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Old November 10th, 2009, 08:47 PM   #3446
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Intersection Julianaplein in Groningen.

The N28 doesn't exist anymore, route 28 has been truncated to the intersection, thus all of route 28 is now A28.





Old E10 sign. Doesn't run through the Netherlands anymore.


N10 doesn't exist anymore either.


If you can't see the pics or want to see more visit Marcel Monterie's webalbum
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Old November 10th, 2009, 10:15 PM   #3447
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There is even a Zwolle in the USA

Edit: Oops, I was at page 170
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Old November 10th, 2009, 11:13 PM   #3448
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Yes there is a Zwolle in Sabine Parish, Louisiana
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Old November 11th, 2009, 06:16 PM   #3449
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No need to get behind the wheel with your cameras anymore, Google Streetview expanded coverage to large parts of The Netherlands, so you can now look around by yourself!

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Old November 12th, 2009, 11:23 AM   #3450
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Yeah, they just didn't cover the eastern part of the country, no streetview yet in Enschede
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Old November 12th, 2009, 09:23 PM   #3451
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Don't you think the rest will follow soon?

The area of coverage is bordered by a suspiciously straight line. It seems that they have just put certain areas online where coverage is complete. But I don't believe that the cars really stopped driving through Zwolle half way.



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Old November 13th, 2009, 07:36 PM   #3452
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Yeah, I hope so. They're probably still working on it.
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Old November 13th, 2009, 08:41 PM   #3453
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VVV I hope this will be coordinated with the rest of the EU.

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Old November 13th, 2009, 08:42 PM   #3454
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Tolls in the Netherlands

Tonight, the plans have been unveiled of a toll scheme in the Netherlands with an introduction in 2012.

A GPS-based toll will be implemented, and people will be charged according to distance, time and location. This means a drive during rush hour around Amsterdam will be expensive, but a nightly drive in Drenthe will be cheap.

On average, motorists will pay € 0,03 per kilometer in 2012 and € 0,067 in 2018. Road tax and car taxes will be canceled. This means cars will be cheaper by 40%. A car of € 25.000 will cost you € 17.850 in 2012. Monthly road tax will disappear too, which would save the average diesel driver over € 1000 per year.

I have no details on the location/time pricing yet. It would be interesting to know what say, a drive of 10 km on the A1 near Amsterdam cost at 8 am. Randstad rush hour drivers can expect a higher toll than the average "€0,03" advertised now.
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Old November 13th, 2009, 09:46 PM   #3455
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More surveillance. Think of how easily your journeys will be traced once this system is implemented
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Old November 14th, 2009, 02:12 AM   #3456
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Think of how easily your cellphone provider can see where you are..
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Old November 14th, 2009, 03:11 AM   #3457
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Think of how easily your cellphone provider can see where you are..
I hope my cellphone provider doesn't hand all the details on when I have been speeding to the government
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Old November 14th, 2009, 05:06 AM   #3458
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Tolls in the Netherlands

Tonight, the plans have been unveiled of a toll scheme in the Netherlands with an introduction in 2012.

A GPS-based toll will be implemented, and people will be charged according to distance, time and location. This means a drive during rush hour around Amsterdam will be expensive, but a nightly drive in Drenthe will be cheap.

On average, motorists will pay € 0,03 per kilometer in 2012 and € 0,067 in 2018. Road tax and car taxes will be canceled. This means cars will be cheaper by 40%. A car of € 25.000 will cost you € 17.850 in 2012. Monthly road tax will disappear too, which would save the average diesel driver over € 1000 per year.

I have no details on the location/time pricing yet. It would be interesting to know what say, a drive of 10 km on the A1 near Amsterdam cost at 8 am. Randstad rush hour drivers can expect a higher toll than the average "€0,03" advertised now.
And what is the early response from the public on this? I can't see how something like this would ever fly here in the USA, or even in today's surveillance-happy UK.

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Old November 14th, 2009, 02:19 PM   #3459
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If it is cheaper, and well implemented, I think it will go trough!

But i think the general population doesn't care, if it doesn't hurt their wallet
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Old November 14th, 2009, 03:49 PM   #3460
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The system is quite fair though, you pay for what you drive...
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