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Old December 22nd, 2009, 09:32 PM   #3641
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The Netherlands roads are some of the best and my most favorite highways. I wish that Swaziland could copy the Holland style throughout.
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Old December 22nd, 2009, 09:35 PM   #3642
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What do like about the Dutch freeways??
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Old December 22nd, 2009, 09:44 PM   #3643
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I like the smoothness of the pavement. Okay, there are a lot of things wrong with the Dutch highways, especially it's quantity, but the quality is generally top-notch. Worn out pavement is often quickly repaved and 90% of the motorway network has porous asphalt concrete which results in nearly no splash in rainy conditions, and it's less noisy as well. You can very clear note the border at any motorway border crossing, the Dutch pavement is in all cases far superior to that of the neighboring motorways.

Of course, this comes at a price. About 40% of the road budget, or € 1 billion per year goes to maintenance alone, which is pretty much for a motorway network of 2400 km.
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Old December 22nd, 2009, 09:56 PM   #3644
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Willing to bet quite a lot of people are willing to trade the quality for quantity.
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Old December 22nd, 2009, 09:57 PM   #3645
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I think you can guess yourself what's bad about dutch freeways. Congestion. Overload. That's why there is so much maintenance.
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Old December 23rd, 2009, 02:01 AM   #3646
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Maybe the environmentalists will get it so far
Two of them?

http://maps.google.ch/maps?f=q&sourc...02738&t=k&z=16

http://maps.google.ch/maps?f=q&sourc...06845&t=k&z=18

However they are quite justified. But why they are covered...with water?
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Old December 23rd, 2009, 11:48 AM   #3647
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The A73 tunnel disaster AFAIK they are opened now, but they have been closed hundreds of times due to the f*cking safety system

The water in there is probably just groundwater coming up, so it will be pumped away later.
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Old December 23rd, 2009, 11:58 AM   #3648
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But why they are covered...with water?
That's ground water. Dig anything deeper than 1 meter, and it will fill with ground water.
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Old December 24th, 2009, 03:09 PM   #3649
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A28 Zwolle at noon. The IJssel Tower (95 m) got a new friend; the Electrabel tower (75 m).
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Old December 24th, 2009, 09:24 PM   #3650
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Two days ago, transport minister Eurlings and spatial planning / environment minister Cramer picked the alternative for the A9 near Badhoevedorp (southwest of Amsterdam). The A9 is currently a 2x2 motorway with an AADT close to 100,000 that runs straight through the suburb of Badhoevedorp.

The ministers picked a new alignment bypassing Badhoevedorp on the south side, and also increasing the lane count to 2x3.
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Do you have a map of this?
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Thanks It seems like there is going to be quite a sharp curve to get from the northbound A4 to the northbound A9 and from the southbound A9 to the southbound A4. Nobody uses it since the A5 was opened anyway

Has it also been announced what will happen to the old stretch? Will they just remove it?
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Old December 24th, 2009, 11:43 PM   #3654
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thats quite a complex interchange
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Old December 25th, 2009, 12:10 AM   #3655
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Thanks It seems like there is going to be quite a sharp curve to get from the northbound A4 to the northbound A9 and from the southbound A9 to the southbound A4. Nobody uses it since the A5 was opened anyway

Has it also been announced what will happen to the old stretch? Will they just remove it?
They will convert it into a park (and maybe a few buildings) AFAIK. Lots of people use the exit from the A9 Eastbound to the A4 Southbound to get into Schiphol Airport, this is not possible when you take the A5. Oh, don’t really like the look of the new interchange..
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Old December 25th, 2009, 02:43 AM   #3656
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Is this where the Ajax Stadion is?
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Old December 25th, 2009, 03:55 AM   #3657
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A28 Zwolle at noon. The IJssel Tower (95 m) got a new friend; the Electrabel tower (75 m).
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Is this "speed limit sign" considered advisory or mandatory speed limit?
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Old December 25th, 2009, 12:02 PM   #3658
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Is this where the Ajax Stadion is?
No, that's on the southeast side of Amsterdam. This is near Schiphol Airport.

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Is this "speed limit sign" considered advisory or mandatory speed limit?
Well, it works as an advisory speed limit, because the only way to get those speed limits off, is to drive faster than the speed shown. Like traffic jams which disappear. However, I believe the BVOM, Bureau Traffic Enforcement of the Attorney General, wanted it to be a mandatory speed limit so they could fine people.
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Old December 26th, 2009, 03:36 PM   #3659
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If you thought you could make a nice quiet trip on the 2nd day of Christmas... Well, you're wrong:
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Old December 26th, 2009, 03:41 PM   #3660
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Does it exist a day without traffic jams?
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