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Old September 22nd, 2007, 01:39 AM   #361
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To be fair, most urban freeways in the US are at or over capacity(495 for example) and do to urban sprawl and stupid bureaucracy, its very hard to upgrade freeways or build new ones,forcing millions to be stuck on traffic jams with no alternatives.
Even in our country, where space is at a prime, there are loads of possibilities to widen or upgrade our existing road network. Due to screwed up prioritizing from the state government highways only get about half of the national infrastructure budget even though they carry four times as much traffic as our PT system. With the amount of money thrown away for building two sub-optimal railway lines (HSL and the Betuweroute), a lot of highways could have been upgraded in order to accomodate way more traffic than those railway lines will probably ever carry.
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Old September 30th, 2007, 12:01 PM   #362
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Wednesday in Germany is the day of unification. It means no truck traffic is allowed into Germany. Dutch police expects about 2000 trucks waiting for the border at the emergency lane.



I can see if i can take a look there, wednesday is my weekly day off.
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Old October 1st, 2007, 01:02 PM   #363
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A new part of the Dutch motorway A35 has been opened last Saturday.

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Old October 1st, 2007, 08:50 PM   #364
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Last year, we all together spend 44 million hours in traffic jams, the total length of all queues were 419.000 kilometers. That is over ten times the circumference of the earth! Patrick Potgraven of the Traffic information agency expects that the statistics can add another 10% to those staggering numbers for the year 2007. "That's because our roads are full. Or better; fuller as full. And that doesn't fit", smiles the representative. His work services traffic information to radio stations.
"The last ten years, there has been an incredible efficiencyoperation on our roads. Therefore, drivers are driving closer to eachother. On the busiests motorways there are over 3000 vehicles per lane per hour. That is huge, a real big prestation. According to traffic theories, a lane can't take more than 2400 vehicles per lane per hour". The roads have reached absolute saturation. Closer is physically impossible, extra traffic immediatly means more traffic jams. An important evidence of that is when it rains, people tend to keep more distance. Traffic jams double or triple then, with the same amount of traffic.
Source; own translation of article by the Dutch Newspaper "Algemeen dagblad".
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Old October 1st, 2007, 09:33 PM   #365
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A new part of the Dutch motorway A35 has been opened last Saturday.

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I don't see anything. Why use Imageshack? That site sucks.
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Old October 1st, 2007, 09:46 PM   #366
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I looked at the a35 and all i saw was this yellow frog *redneck accent*
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Old October 1st, 2007, 09:50 PM   #367
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I think he means this one.
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Old October 2nd, 2007, 04:56 PM   #368
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Doesn't look very Dutch with that concrete wall in the middle. But quite nice.
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Old October 2nd, 2007, 05:17 PM   #369
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I think they do that more often now. They implemented it on the new 2+1 N50 section too. It saves space, because with lanes so close to eachother, you need 2 crashbarriers of expensive steel, now only one concrete barrier which they can construct in a matter of hours, because they have some moving concrete-barrier-building-machine for it.

You put concrete in the front, and while moving, there is placed a barrier at the back. Quite a cool technique.
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Old October 2nd, 2007, 06:05 PM   #370
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Isn't that barrier a bit low for blocking the lights of the other cars?
Wouldn't those plastic things that are put on top of those jersey barriers be advisable in that curve?

I know that concrete barriers block the light much better than steel rails, but when you use rails, there generally is a few metters between the 2 directions.
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Old October 2nd, 2007, 07:51 PM   #371
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Another interesting technique used here is the light part asphalt directly next to the barrier. You'll have to watch the photo very good, but when you stand on the asphalt it it's quite a different colour. Keeps away people more from the barrier (psychological).
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Old October 2nd, 2007, 08:41 PM   #372
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I think this is much better as then italian barrier we saw in the Italian topic, there wasn't even a white marking, just immediatly the barrier. That is asking for accidents.
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Old October 2nd, 2007, 09:17 PM   #373
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9 cars collide on A7 near Leek

Tuesday afternoon, nine cars crashed on the A7 Groningen - Heerenveen near Leek, in the far northern of the country. Short after 5.30 pm, they closed the entire roadway to the west, traffic was detoured over the exit off and on-ramps.

Around 18.30 a traffic jam of 11 km existed, on this normally traffic jam-free road. The road was given back to traffic around 7 pm.

Earlier that afternoon, on the A27 Utrecht - Breda, the dilation parts of the Keizersveerbridge came loose. Because of that, the left lane was closed, causing a 14km long queue in mid-afternoon outside rushhours.
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Old October 2nd, 2007, 11:31 PM   #374
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Chaos on A1 because of parked trucks on motorway

On the A1 near the German-Dutch border, there has been a chaos because of truckdrivers who want to get out of Germany before they are not allowed to drive on holidays. The Dutch police pledges drivers not to enter the Netherlands from Germany on the A1, because trucks use the emergency and right lane as parking lane. Same problems occurred along the A67 motorway near Venlo.

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A1 Osnabrück - Hengelo
Between the German border and exit De Lutte 2 km jammed because of 1 closed lane.

Between the German border and exit De Lutte
[!] closure of the right lane
Truckers from Germany using driving lanes as parking lanes.

Osnabrück - Apeldoorn
Between the German border and Interchange Beekbergen (75km)
[!] All rest areas overcrowded
Because of German holiday that doesn't allow trucks to drive after 24.00 hrs.

A67 Venlo - Eindhoven
[!]All rest areas overcrowded
Because of German holiday that doesn't allow trucks to drive after 24.00 hrs.

A76 Aachen - Geleen
[!]All rest areas overcrowded
Because of German holiday that doesn't allow trucks to drive after 24.00 hrs.


Chaotic scenes also on the Polish and Czech borders.

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Dutch police warns for unlighted trucks parked all over the motorway.
All motorways near the German border has been clogged up with trucks. Chaotic scenes were reported from the A1, A2, A67 and A76 because truckes put their trucks to the limit to reach the Dutch border in order not to be stuck in Germany for 24 hrs, because they are not allowed to drive on German holidays.

All rest areas and emergency lanes has been filled with trucks. Right lanes has been closed, and a 70km/h limit has been posted because of safety-issues regarding parked trucks along the motorway.

When truckers acces the Netherlands, they want to stop as soon as possible, not to violate driving time regulations, which is seeable on the Tachograph. Because there is no space at all on rest areas, truckers park their trucks unlighted all over the emergency lanes.

Because this kind of behaviour is life-threatening, the Dutch traffic police urges drivers to be careful along motorways to and near the German border. Truckers are being advised to leave their lights on.

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Old October 3rd, 2007, 12:43 AM   #375
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This was the view in May 2007, i wonder what i see tomorrow.
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 12:46 AM   #376
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And i thought truck traffic in U.S was bad enough.
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 01:12 AM   #377
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Anything positive from the Netherlands?
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 02:15 AM   #378
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I think this is much better as then italian barrier we saw in the Italian topic, there wasn't even a white marking, just immediatly the barrier. That is asking for accidents.

What? Fi-Pi-Li?

Well, certainly, but Fi-Pi-Li isn't a motorway (just expressway).

Still, I'm only talking about the zones around the curves. In straight sections it's not a problem.
But in this case (A35), there must be no problem because the concrete barrier is possible a bit taller than average, and the curve radius must be very big.
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 03:57 AM   #379
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Anything positive from the Netherlands?
Chris is being a bit melodramatic. Not all roads in the country are in a permanent state of chaos. I had to commute 110km each way for a week a little while a ago. Took me 75 minutes in the morning and 70 in the evening.
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Old October 3rd, 2007, 08:50 AM   #380
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Depends on the location and time of course. Roads in provinces like Friesland, Groningen, Drenthe, Zeeland and Limburg are rarely jammed. However, I think over 300km traffic jam on motorways each morning is ridicilously much for a network with just about 2,300 kms motorway (of which >95% are build-up in rural areas).

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because the concrete barrier is possible a bit taller than average
It didn't seem so. I guess it was about one meter, I think. Low enough to climb on it.
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