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Old February 5th, 2010, 10:56 PM   #3841
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Does this mean that each year such sections are entirely repaved, because I have never seen a patchy Dutch motorway before?
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Old February 5th, 2010, 11:04 PM   #3842
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Not every year, but since we've had a relatively cold winter this year and because ZOAB doesn't like low temperatures, this is what happens.
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Old February 5th, 2010, 11:09 PM   #3843
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Does this mean that each year such sections are entirely repaved, because I have never seen a patchy Dutch motorway before?
They usually patch it up as a quick solution. It is usually completely repaved once temperatures are above zero and it is dry, probably in March or April. It usually only involves scraping off the top layer and pouring new asphalt, something that can be done in one night.
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Old February 6th, 2010, 05:40 PM   #3844
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On the A1 near Diemen repavement already has been done last week.
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Old February 7th, 2010, 02:14 PM   #3845
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A28 Zwolle:
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Old February 7th, 2010, 05:35 PM   #3846
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Yhea nice looking asphalt.
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Old February 7th, 2010, 09:09 PM   #3847
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Thats what happens if you add: Zoab + Long term frost = pot holes

Luckily this is not the normal situation, as you see in some countries!!
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Old February 8th, 2010, 08:25 AM   #3848
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its not a typical Dutch problam.. Also here in Denmark we have the same problem with 'normal' asfalt.
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Old February 8th, 2010, 10:14 AM   #3849
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Now is fair.
I could even say Dutch motorways are in worse condition then Polish
... perhaps Poland will be still famous from holes in roads but it will change because of under zero temperature in western countries during winter
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Old February 10th, 2010, 04:22 PM   #3850
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It's snowing again. Currently 579 kilometers of traffic jam, and rush hour is just about to start.

The longest traffic jam at the moment is on A28 Utrecht-bound: Between Elspeet and Interchange Rijnsweerd: 54 kilometers slow to stationary traffic. Delay over 2 hours.
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Old February 10th, 2010, 05:07 PM   #3851
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I think roads in the Netherlands aren't just designed for cold weather. Cold weather in countries like Estonia, Finland, Sweden etc. isn't a problem for roads and pot holes like the ones shown here only occur where proper maintenance hasn't been done for a while.

And stabile cold weather isn't the worst condition for roads. Temperatures fluctuating below and above freezing point are the most damaging for road surface.
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Old February 10th, 2010, 07:28 PM   #3852
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2.400 kilometers of traffic jam at the moment. About 500 km according to the conventional traffic information, but they're missing out a lot of sections that are not covered with induction loops, and those are exactly the locations where congestion is.

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Old February 10th, 2010, 07:37 PM   #3853
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We have a 3-digit traffic jam length!

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Old February 10th, 2010, 08:21 PM   #3854
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Woow, Oss seems really busy, I live there but I never knew that It would jam there, Although it is exceptional with this weather...

But does anyone know the normal situation on the A50/A59 ?
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Old February 10th, 2010, 10:32 PM   #3855
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Now is fair.
... perhaps Poland will be still famous from holes in roads but it will change because of under zero temperature in western countries during winter
I must admit that asphalt used in Poland on new roads is very resistant, I haven't found any holes on a strech of our national road nr 10 since it was repaved (2005 or so). So the mixture of asphalt is also important.
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Old February 13th, 2010, 06:31 PM   #3856
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Yesterday, I drove on the "Markerwaarddijk" from Lelystad to Enkhuizen. This dyke is slightly shorter than the well-know Afsluitdijk. I mostly likde the wintery scene

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The exit to the dyke on the A6


The beginning near Batavia Stad (an outletcenter)



At the Houtribsluizen












And now finally on the way to Enkhuizen















A short stop. It looks like the northpole here. Actually, it really felt like that since there was a quite cold wind.







Continuing




A short stop at a restaurant at Trintelhaven, view on the way back to Lelystad




Back on the road again, unfortunatey there is temporarily no view ti the northeast (IJsselmeer)







Another short stop, with a view on Enkhuizen. Here, the Markermeer (at the southwesternside) also is frozen.











Continuing





Approaching the end, but first the "Naviduct" (for the boats the travel from the Markermeer to IJsselmeer v.v.)







A quick stop very close to the end at the naviductm with a view on Enkhuizen and its trainstation






Leaving the province of Flevoland and entering Noord-Holland.




The first kilometres in Noord-Holland, ending on the N506 towards Hoorn.



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The N518 from Monnickendam to the former island of Marken.

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Old February 13th, 2010, 06:46 PM   #3858
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the "Markerwaarddijk"
I always wondered what the actual correct name of this dike is...

So far I've heard;

* Markerwaarddijk
* Houtribdijk
* Dijk Lelystad - Enkhuizen
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I find the Markerwaardijk more impressive because it is narrower than the most famous Afsluitdijk. I'd love to see some development on the Markermeer, so I'd have the opportunity to see a polder being drained, diked and built with my own eyes. With skyrocket prices in Amsterdam area and with Almere reaching its limits, why don't they start planning to reclaim at least two or three 200 km² polders?

I don't understand, though, the exact hidraulic function of the Markerwaardijk: the North Sea is already "dammed" by the Afsluitdijk, so I guess this dike is meant to avoid occasional high waters from the Ijssel flooding Amsterdam?
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Old February 13th, 2010, 08:40 PM   #3860
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No, It's a massive fresh water reserve know I believe
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