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Old March 11th, 2010, 06:15 PM   #3961
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We should maybe considder this as a bad bad day for dutch motorist/infrastructurist..

Maybe the best Transport Minister we ever had, Camiel Eurlings, has decided that he will not resume a career in Politics.

IMHO its a real shame, he did so many good things, and finally got some projects trough the pipeline!!
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Old March 11th, 2010, 06:21 PM   #3962
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Yep, apart from the km tolls, he was one of the best ministers we had. Well, at least we have a legacy of over 30 freeway projects in next couple of years.
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Old March 12th, 2010, 03:28 AM   #3963
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Projected traffic volumes around Amsterdam in 2020.

The first figure is the reference volume, and the second one with the construction of the second Coen Tunnel and A5 extension (which are currently both under construction).

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63.000, 73.000, 96.000 - and A5 will be only 2x2!?
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Old March 12th, 2010, 09:24 AM   #3964
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60,000 - 80,000 is not really seen as problematic for 2x2 in the Netherlands. Hundreds of kilometers of 2x2 motorway have such volumes without any plans to widen them.

96,000 would push it though.
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Old March 12th, 2010, 01:35 PM   #3965
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How about 244.000 on the 2x3 near A4 Sloten? Seems to be quite a lot for a 2x3.
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Old March 12th, 2010, 02:21 PM   #3966
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There is shoulder running planned there. To be completed in April 2011. However, you need at least 10 permanent lanes to handle that kind of traffic.

244,000 is theoretically impossible on 2x3. The highest 2x3 counts are found on A13 and A20 near Rotterdam at 180,000 AADT. Even New York City Expressways don't get that much on 2x3.
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Old March 12th, 2010, 02:54 PM   #3967
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Roadworks will begin tonight to add shoulder running on 17 kilometers of southbound A2 in southern Netherlands, between Interchange Het Vonderen (A73) and exit Urmond near Geleen. It is supposed to be completed by the end of 2010. A total of 16 SOS niches will be added to the motorway. Shoulder running in the northbound direction will be added next year.

Interchange Kerensheide (A2/A76) just south of that will be changed with a direct fly-over from A2 to A76 east between 2011 and 2013.

Adding to that, there will be large-scale renovation between Kelpen to Wessem, so A2 from Weert to Geleen will be pretty problematic the next two years.

This section of A2 carried 75,000 to 94,000 AADT on 2x2 in 2006.
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Old March 12th, 2010, 07:02 PM   #3968
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The design-record of decision of the A4 Dinteloord - Halsteren will be available to public from March 16th, for a period of 6 weeks.

This is the southernmost missing link out of three missing links in the A4 motorway (Amsterdam - Antwerpen). The new motorway will have 2x2 lanes and feature and aqueduct near Steenbergen. It will pass along the west side of Steenbergen, although this means more mileage than an eastern bypass, which has been considered unfeasible.

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Old March 12th, 2010, 08:38 PM   #3969
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And what about the othe rmissing parts?
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Old March 12th, 2010, 09:03 PM   #3970
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There were plans to open Delft - Rotterdam with 2+3 lanes by 2015. However, the collapse of the Dutch government made these plans uncertain, there is a significant chance it is delayed.

As for Rotterdam - Klaaswaal, there are currently no plans to construct this section. The A15 is being widened to 10 lanes between 2011 and 2015. The detour here isn't very bad, but constructing this missing links would make the network much more robust, with so many rivers and lack of crossings, it is not uncommon to have waiting times in excess of 1 hour at the ferries when an incident has taken place on A15 or A29.
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Old March 12th, 2010, 09:21 PM   #3971
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So the A4 is just in several pieces? Why would you want to go that way between Amsterdam and Antwerp anyway? Why not take the A2 and A27 and go Utrecht - Breda - Antwerp. That's what I do when I'm going to Calais.
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Old March 12th, 2010, 09:23 PM   #3972
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It's just a route that happen to run from Amsterdam to Antwerpen. Overall, the entire route is not interesting but the far majority of the traffic doesn't use more than 30 kilometers of it. Truck traffic uses the A16 via Breda. So even with it not being an important through route, filling up the gaps mostly improves regional traffic - heck almost any motorway caters mostly regional traffic (<50 km).

Real long-distance traffic from northern Netherlands uses the A27.
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Old March 12th, 2010, 09:47 PM   #3973
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Old March 12th, 2010, 11:43 PM   #3974
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This is a real mountain in the Netherlands! Road going up the Holterberg (berg = mountain) . I am serious. This is no joke.
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Old March 13th, 2010, 09:55 AM   #3975
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And what about the othe rmissing parts?

And what about the "Cisalpino? No, thank you." ?
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Old March 13th, 2010, 11:28 AM   #3976
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Average delay of the train I use mostly: http://www.cessoalpino.com/en/2010/trains/24/ (one of the seven that have not been canceled, on my line there were 15 daily and usually on time trains in 2008, there are 7 and often late in 2010).
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Old March 15th, 2010, 08:47 AM   #3977
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A trip of last week through Amsterdam:

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Old March 16th, 2010, 02:53 AM   #3978
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtlkZ6HWNgU

Hey Chris. Cheers for that video.

I like the idea of physically separated lanes on straight and relative fast 2x1 roads. + the hard shoulder - whoa

If I remember correctly I saw physical separated road nr 40 west of Jnkping, Sweden on 2+1 Jnkping - Bors.

Are there some other places with physical split?

I suppose this road will be once upgraded to 2x2?
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Old March 17th, 2010, 10:16 PM   #3979
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N31/A31 Zurich - Leeuwarden

Some pics of the N31 expressway and A31 motorway from Zurich to Leeuwarden.

1. N31
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2. Loopbrug over de N31.
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3. En van de twee OK-tankstations in Nederland die mij bekend zijn (de andere is bij Nieuwegein).
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4. Afslag Kimswerd.
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5. N31 buiten proportie.
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6. Dit stuk 2x2 rijdt heerlijk.
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7. De N31 loopt hier strak langs de Waddenzee, maar je ziet er niks van.
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8. Harlingen. De N31 versmalt hier kortstondig naar 1x2 rijstroken, maar blijft wel ongelijkvloers.
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9.
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10. Afslag Harlingen.
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11. Foutieve toepassing van de markering, alleen de Vmax wordt hier verlaagd naar 80, maar het blijft wel een autoweg. Had dus groen moeten zijn eigenlijk.
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12. Beweegbare brug over het Van Harinxmakanaal.
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13. NBA bordje naar Harlingen-Havens.
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14. Hier begint de snelweg alweer, de 1x2 onderbreking is niet veel meer dan 2 of 3 kilometer.
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15. Afslag Midlum.
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16. Loopbrug over de A31 (leek me te steil voor fietsers)
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17. Afslag Franeker met wit uitgeslagen panelen.
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18. Over een paar jaar kunnen we ongelijkvloers naar Drachten.
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19. Afslag Franeker.
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20. Hier ligt n of ander superstil asfalt. Ik had een beetje het gevoel weinig contact meer te hebben met het wegdek.
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21. Afslag Dronrijp.
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22. Het leek wel of ze hier overdreven met zout hebben gestrooid, maar het heeft al dagen niet meer gevroren. De weg was bijna wit soms.
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23. Tankstation de Mieden.
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24. Het doorgaande verkeer naar Drachten wordt hier geacht af te slaan.
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25. De N383 gaat dan verder.
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26. De snelweg gaat over in een 2x2 autoweg.
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27. Nog een loopbrug over de weg.
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28. De skyline van Leeuwarden.
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29. Even voor het einde van de autoweg begint een parallele busbaan die de files kan omzeilen.
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30. Een soort pyramide.
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31. Ljouwert.
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Old March 17th, 2010, 10:57 PM   #3980
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wait,wait..Sexbierum?!
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