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Old July 5th, 2010, 09:35 PM   #4341
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at the other national threads we often can read about some poor or bad done things on motorways which should be fixed or replaced. are there any of thes at NL motorways?
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Old July 5th, 2010, 09:58 PM   #4342
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Not really, motorways are generally good, although there are still some sections with bad pavement after the winter. With the Dutch traffic volumes and the use of vulnerable asphalt, these need to be addressed sooner.

There are negative comments on the current new signage that is being implemented. It's criticized for the lack of consistency and the waste of capital. Many good signs are being replaced with new ones. It's actually the same thing that happened in the late 90's, early 2000's when nearly all perfectly fine non-motorway signs were replaced with ANWB redesign, which was seen as a mere advertisement for ANWB to press their stamp on the signs. Rationally, there was no need to replace the perfectly fine highway gothic font with the less legible Uu redesign font.

It's also annoying to have so many low speed limits of 80 km/h on urban motorways an 100 km/h on rural motorways, enforced by section control.

However, the motorways are still the best roads around, the continuous downgrading of well-designed non-motorways is much worse. All in the sake of "traffic calming" (I call it road raping) and estúpidos whose narrow-minded environmental and traffic safety policy doesn't extend beyond the downgrading of speed limits. Do we really need roundabouts for minor side roads? Do we need mini-roundabouts on roads with more than 15,000 vehicles per day? Do we need 60 km/h limits on roads that are designed for 80 or 100 km/h? Do we need speed bumps at traffic lights, hello South Holland?
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Old July 5th, 2010, 11:00 PM   #4343
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Actually major wildfires are quite common. Every year produces a few large enough to warrant evacuations.
"Major" wildfires on a Dutch scale. The A67 was closed due to a fire in the "Strabrechtse Heide" forest, which destroyed 200 hectares. In other words: just two square kilometers, in a remote area. So they are actually small fires and no real threat to any city. Such forest fires always gain a lot of media attention because The Netherlands is such a small country where a forest fire is something "exotic" and "sensational". Definitely uncomparable to big wildfires elsewhere in the world.
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200 hectares is considered a major fire even by Estonian standards.
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Old July 6th, 2010, 09:39 PM   #4345
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Some pictures of the A12 between Den Haag and Gouda.















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And some pix of the (non-highway) N11 between the A12 (Bodegraven) and A4 (Leiden).














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Old July 6th, 2010, 09:52 PM   #4347
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If there were a best-signage-in-Europe contest, I might vote for you guys. My favorite feature being the distances incorporated in the directional signs, yet without making them messy.
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A7 near Groningen and entering the city.










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why is left lane closed while there is not traffic from opposite direction?
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It's left shoulder running.
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Old July 7th, 2010, 02:53 PM   #4351
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A truck lost it's brakes on the A2 off-ramp in Bunde (near Maastricht), which is a downhill off-ramp, just after the major 5% downhill grade on A2. It crashed into a couple of buildings.

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Wow the guy in the small car got very lucky if he made it out of that one.
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Old July 7th, 2010, 03:36 PM   #4353
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A truck lost it's brakes on the A2 off-ramp in Bunde (near Maastricht), which is a downhill off-ramp, just after the major 5% downhill grade on A2. It crashed into a couple of buildings.
Have you ever made a film in this mountainous area of The Netherlands?

And another question: why did they choose a tunnel in Maastricht instead of a bypass out of the city?
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why did they choose a tunnel in Maastricht instead of a bypass out of the city?
Well, there are basically two reasons. First, it was thought environmentally unacceptable to build a motorway through this area, as it contains hills, and there aren't many of them in the Netherlands. That is probably also the reason why A78 wasn't build along the current N278 alignment.

Second, a bypass wouldn't serve Maastricht traffic very much, and through traffic to Belgium is rather limited (approximately 18,000 vehicles per day). The tunnel can also be used for local traffic that wants to go from the south to the north of the city. From the 80,000 or so vehicles per day before the traffic lights, maybe 15,000 -20,000 is through traffic, thus it wouldn't really solve Maastricht's N2 problems

The N2 is considered a social problem as well. The area around the N2 consist of outdated social housing (which will all be demolished) and the N2 otherwise remains a physical barrier in the city.
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Old July 7th, 2010, 05:13 PM   #4355
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What are these G, Z, D letters on yellow background?

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Those are detour routes. They are temporary, for example when a road closure has to be done for repaving works. If you enter a road which is closed or where a detour is in effect, signs say which abbreviation you have to follow to get to your destination. The letters are often the first letter of a destination (this could be Gouda, Zoetermeer and Den Haag).
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Temporarily arranged detours, usually related to road works elsewhere. The first sign you'll see will be a yellow one telling you "Road works ahead. Amsterdam, follow A." and then onwards you'll follow all the A-signs (like the G, Z & D ones above) until finally you pass a sign that says "End of detour."

EDIT: Chris beat me to it by a minute, he's too efficient
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A truck got a blowout on A2 near exit Breukelen, causing a small wildfire.

A larger wildfire in the wooded median closed A28 in both directions south of Zwolle


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Until 2010, this was the only carriageway in the Netherlands with 6 undivided lanes.

Location: A12 just before interchange Oudenrijn near Utrecht City.
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Old July 11th, 2010, 11:11 PM   #4360
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Hi, just reading through the highway forum here. You guys are doing a great job, keep the pictures coming!

I have one minor question regarding Dutch roads, or rather, Dutch (and Belgian, from those pictures on page 214) road signs:

What do the numbers on some signs mean after the destination?

I don't mean the distance (like "Utrecht 42") but rather something like "Rotterdam 1000-1999" (only an example!)?

Are they postcodes, or something do to with freight or industry?

(Sorry if this has been answered before!)
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