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Old July 11th, 2010, 11:18 PM   #4361
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Those are distances, except for those black-white things which are industrial area numbers.
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Old July 11th, 2010, 11:18 PM   #4362
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Ah, that's what I thought! Thanks.
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Old July 12th, 2010, 03:34 PM   #4363
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And in your example you most likely meant the signs like Havens 1000-1999 which are all around the Rotterdam area indicating harbors
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Old July 12th, 2010, 03:47 PM   #4364
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And in your example you most likely meant the signs like Havens 1000-1999 which are all around the Rotterdam area indicating harbors
It is completely off-topic, but first time I was driving in Netherlands and spot a "Haven XXXX-YYYY" sign, right after entering the country, I thought it was a church and the numbers were related to construction years Learning the actual meaning of "uitgezonderd" was more difficult, though.
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Old July 12th, 2010, 06:07 PM   #4365
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A few pictures of the N259 near Steenbergen. What's interesting about it? Well, it is one of the last roads in the Netherlands that has not been downgraded from it's grand 1960's alignment with concrete pavement, wide lanes and shoulders.

Apparently, roads half this width are considered much better, even with probably 4 times the traffic volume of back in the 60's.

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Old July 12th, 2010, 11:19 PM   #4366
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The entrance to the N259 at Welberg:


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Old July 13th, 2010, 12:07 AM   #4367
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It just makes me sad to think that roads as widen and well-built like this one are "downgraded" into narrower ones, with no shoulder and, sometimes, even bike lanes right on the carriageway itself.

What a waste...
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Old July 13th, 2010, 02:37 AM   #4368
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Nice road! Do you know the speedlimit and the width?
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Old July 13th, 2010, 09:06 PM   #4369
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Looks like 80, but it could also be 100 which would make more sense. Not sure about the width, but I'm sure ChrisZwolle does know
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Old July 13th, 2010, 09:40 PM   #4370
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Speed limit = 80 km/h.

Road width is probably 2+3.75+3.75+2 so 11.50 m.

Current road widths on provincial highways are often 3+3 m, so half of this.
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Old July 13th, 2010, 11:24 PM   #4371
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80km/h? Wow. 100km/h would be much more suiting. Up here, we have 100km/h on roads with a whole lot less width ( http://maps.google.se/maps?f=q&sourc...217.98,,0,0.91 )

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Old July 14th, 2010, 12:04 AM   #4372
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80km/h? Wow. 100km/h would be much more suiting. Up here, we have 100km/h on roads with a whole lot less width ( http://maps.google.se/maps?f=q&sourc...217.98,,0,0.91 )
This bit of road is only 2-3 km long so it just has the same speed limit as the rest of the N259...
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Old July 14th, 2010, 10:29 PM   #4373
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Severe weather affected much of eastern Netherlands. Especially in eastern Brabant and Limburg, most roads are blocked due to downed trees. At least 4 trucks were blown off the A67 motorway between Eindhoven and Venlo. 20 inhabited caravans were blown into a lake, and major power lines were downed near Doetinchem.
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Old July 15th, 2010, 05:49 AM   #4374
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I usually don't see drainage pipes and grills common in other countries here in Netherlands. Because its terrain is so flat, how do they cope with accumulated rain water over roads in a day like today?
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Old July 15th, 2010, 09:22 AM   #4375
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Every urban street has drainage. Rural streets and roads usually do not, but they tend to have small drainage canals alongside them because everything is so flat.
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Old July 15th, 2010, 09:49 AM   #4376
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Every urban street has drainage. Rural streets and roads usually do not, but they tend to have small drainage canals alongside them because everything is so flat.
Where does the water go, in areas that are below sea level? I know nothing whatsoever about how drainage works, but I'm thinking it would be less a matter of letting it flow naturally into a waterway somewhere than letting it drain into artificial underground reservoirs of some sort and then pumping it out....
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These areas have pumping stations that pump water into waterways. That's why they say "God created the Dutch, but the Dutch created the Netherlands". Virtually every square kilometer of the Netherlands is artificially created and controlled. Without our dikes, dams and pumping stations most of the Netherlands would either be under water or swamps.
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Old July 15th, 2010, 01:10 PM   #4378
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Yes, I notice most provincial roads are built over dikes (levees). But this is not usually the case of urban roads. So yesterday I noticed many roads in Tilburg partially flooded after the storm, and it took 3 hours after the rain stopped to have a nearby thoroughfare cleared of all standing water.

Guess the pumps were busy already.
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Video:

The coolest, widest and busiest road in the Netherlands: A16 from Dordrecht to Rotterdam. It also features the widest bridge and largest interchange in the country.




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Old July 16th, 2010, 10:49 AM   #4380
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