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Old November 30th, 2010, 09:35 PM   #4761
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Schiphol - Amsterdam - Almere (SAA)

The SAA project is the largest motorway project undertaken in the Netherlands in at least the last few decades. A few years ago, it became clear there was no political will for a new A6-A9 connection, thus plans changed and they opted for a massive widening of existing motorways. In 2010 the design-record of decision has been taken, and a record of decision is expected in 2011 with road works commencing in 2012 and completion in 2018.

This is the scope of the project:


The most vital link is the A1 between interchanges Diemen and Muiderberg. It currently carries 190.000 vehicles per day. It has 2x3 lanes plus a reversible lane, which will be dualled until early 2011, hence 8 lanes. To cope with the astounding growth of the city of Almere (from 180.000 to 350.000 inhabitants), a large-scale expansion of the motorway network to the job locations (southern Amsterdam, Schiphol area) is necessary.

The predicted 2022 traffic volume on the A1 motorway is 311.000 vehicles per day. In other words, around 370.000 people will use it on a daily basis. This is as much as 40% of the entire Dutch public transport. Only the growth of traffic on this corridor equals 15% of the entire Dutch public transport. It will become the busiest motorway in the Netherlands, and possibly Europe (tie with M-30 in Madrid).

Section: A1 interchange Watergraafsmeer (A10) - interchange Diemen (A9)

This section will be widened from 2x3 lanes to 2x4 lanes. There will be 10 lanes close to both interchanges.


Section: A1 interchange Diemen (A9) - interchange Muiderberg (A6)

This section will be widened from 2x3+2 lanes to 2x5+2 lanes plus 2 bus lanes, 14 lanes total. The drawbridge near Muiden will be replaced by a 14-lane aquaduct slightly south of the existing bridge, the widest aquaduct in the world. Some sections will feature 2x6 through lanes.


Section: A6 interchange Muiderberg (A1) - Almere-Buiten-Oost

This section will be widened from 2x3 / 2x2 lanes to an express-local setup, with basically 4x2 lanes near Almere, but up to 16 lanes closer to interchange Muiderberg. The existing Holland Bridge will be replaced by a new, 15-lane bridge, including 11 motorway lanes, 2 bus lanes and 2 non-motorway lanes for slow traffic. This bridge will become the widest in the Netherlands, surpassing the 12-lane Brienenoord Bridge in Rotterdam.


Section: A9 interchange Diemen (A1) - interchange Holendrecht (A2)

This section currently has 2x2 lanes and shoulder running during peak hours. Due to the expected growth on the A1-A9 corridor, interchange Diemen will be drastically realigned and Almere - Haarlem will become the through direction (A1 will run through a TOTSO). This section will be changed with a new tunnel, with 10 lanes, with a 5x2 setup (2 reversible lanes) in the tunnel, which will become 2x5 lanes approaching interchange Diemen.


Section: A9 interchange Badhoevedorp (A4) - interchange Holendrecht (A2)

This section currently has mostly 2x3 lanes, with 4 lanes per direction near interchanges. This section will see a modest upgrade with 2x4 lanes all the way, except approaching interchanges, where 2x5 or 2x6 lanes will be constructed. No exceptional constructions are needed here.


Section: A10 interchange Watergraafsmeer (A1) - interchange Amstel (A2)

This section currently has 2x3 lanes, and will be modestly upgraded to 2x4 lanes. This section has a narrow right-of-way and passes under a section of the Watergraafsmeer classification yard, which means there is not much space.


Related widenings:

A1: Bussum - interchange Eemnes
This section has a very narrow ROW and currently features 2x2 lanes. Shoulder running will be implemented by early 2011.

A2: Amsterdam - Utrecht
This section has recently been widened to 2x5 lanes, but will not be finished near Utrecht until late 2012 due to severe tunnel technical installation problems.

A4: Schiphol - Amsterdam
This section is currently the busiest 2x3 motorway in the Netherlands with 190.000 vehicles per day. For now, shoulder running will be added.

A10: Amsterdam-South
This section currently has 2x3 lanes and is severely congested. As a short-term solution, shoulder running will be added between A2 and A4. There are plans to completely rebuild the area around the motorway, including putting all motorway and rail infrastructure underground with 4x3 lanes. This is very expensive and can only be realized in conjunction with real estate development, but is put on-hold due to the economic situation.

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Old November 30th, 2010, 09:45 PM   #4762
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"A few years ago, it became clear there was no political will for a new A6-A9 connection"


whats the problem with it?
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Old November 30th, 2010, 10:30 PM   #4763
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I got a practical question. Sometimes I make a trip from Almere to the Den Haag area, should I take the ring (A10) or A9 when passing Amsterdam. I have to go there in the morning, thus file is a rule, but lets say passing around Amsterdam around 9 a.m. return again in the spitz around 6 p.m..

Or do you think it is better to skip Amsterdam completaly and go through Hilversum and Utrecht? The last variant is to skip whole Flevoland, but then there are files around Zwolle and it is longer route. So really hard choice .
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Old November 30th, 2010, 11:13 PM   #4764
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@H123Laci,
The lakes just South of the current A1-A6 interchange triggered the opposition. The proposed route would not really touch those lakes, but it would pass by near enough to have an (alleged) adverse impact on the area. A tunnel has briefly been under discussion, but that alternative never really took off.

@Surel,
A10 is shorter in kilometers, but more likely to get jammed. The choice is simple to make: when you approach Knooppunt Diemen (outbound) or Knooppunt Badhoevedorp (inbound), you'll find information panels telling you the estimated driving time to Badhoevedorp (outbound) or Diemen (inbound) via the A9 route and via the A10 route. I'd just rely on that information and make your choice.
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Old November 30th, 2010, 11:19 PM   #4765
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I can't find any reasonable explanation for this massive widened of A1 near Diemen. Maybe government should introduce tax free zone in Almere or Flevoland for bussines purpose. Locate all business facilities in Flevoland, open airport in Almere. Next change name Almere for Amsterdam. (I know, it's more fancy to have Amsterdam's address).
It's ridiculous for all 350k Alemere's citizen commute everyday to Amsterdam. This unnecessary use of fuel and time. Also is not eco friendly. Then after ocean level increase this part of land will be cover by weather anyway...
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Old November 30th, 2010, 11:23 PM   #4766
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Is this a standard NL no parking sign?

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Old November 30th, 2010, 11:25 PM   #4767
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This sign says: End of no parking zone for trucks and buses.
Zone's sign are like this across Europe (I mean mainland Europe)
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Old November 30th, 2010, 11:28 PM   #4768
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What I mean is the (P) rather than (/)
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Old December 1st, 2010, 01:29 AM   #4769
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Is this a standard NL no parking sign?
No, it isn't.

Standard is the red/blue sign. (RVV E01)


However municipalities can apply an additional "APV" (Algemene Plaatselijke Verordening = General Local Regulation). In this case such a regulation is being communicated by non-RVV signs.

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Old December 1st, 2010, 03:29 AM   #4770
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Exactly. Such signs exists to mark the end of "no parking zones for trucks and trailers" in Italy as well. The regular scheme (a "dimmed grayed" sign with a diagonal strip) wouldn't work because the no-parking regular sign already is a diagonal strip :p
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Old December 1st, 2010, 03:33 AM   #4771
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I can't find any reasonable explanation for this massive widened of A1 near Diemen. Maybe government should introduce tax free zone in Almere or Flevoland for bussines purpose. Locate all business facilities in Flevoland, open airport in Almere. Next change name Almere for Amsterdam. (I know, it's more fancy to have Amsterdam's address).
It's ridiculous for all 350k Alemere's citizen commute everyday to Amsterdam. This unnecessary use of fuel and time. Also is not eco friendly. Then after ocean level increase this part of land will be cover by weather anyway...
Aflustdijk will take care of that

In any case, I think some satellite business centers will relocate to Lelystad and Almere - 10/20 years from now. Every major urban agglomeration has its heavily pendulous commuting cities. What happened, until now, is that the Randstad had major cities not entirely connected, but not entirely segregated too. Hence you had some balance between business and homes in Rotterdam-Den Haah-Leiden-Haarlem-Amsterdam axis. But the place keep growing, so it is sort of inevitable the overflow to new municipalities.
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Old December 1st, 2010, 01:44 PM   #4772
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Some facts about the spectacular traffic congestion-reduction on the A2 in North-Brabant province.

Overall, the Dutch traffic congestion increased slightly in 2010, despite the economic recession.

However, with the completions of major road expansion projects in early 2010, traffic congestion on A2 has overall been slashed by 84%. The numbers are even more spectacular for individual projects;

A2 Zaltbommel:
Number 1 traffic jam in the nation in 2009: 250.000 kilometer minutes. In 2010: 20.000 kilometer minutes = -92% congestion. This traffic jam disappears out of the top 50 traffic jams!

A2 Den Bosch:
210.000 kilometer minutes in 2009, only 10.000 kilometer minutes in 2010 = -96% congestion

A2 Eindhoven:
150.000 kilometer minutes in 2009, reduced to some 30.000 kilometer minutes in 2010 = -80% traffic congestion. The recently completed widenings to Valkenswaard and Oirschot (A2/A58) will further reduce congestion

Traffic congestion tripled on A2 Den Bosch - Eindhoven, though in absolute numbers it's only some 30.000 kmmin in 2010. This section will be widened to 2x3 by 2013. Congestion also increased on A58 and A67.
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The predicted 2022 traffic volume on the A1 motorway is 311.000 vehicles per day. In other words, around 370.000 people will use it on a daily basis. This is as much as 40% of the entire Dutch public transport. Only the growth of traffic on this corridor equals 15% of the entire Dutch public transport. It will become the busiest motorway in the Netherlands, and possibly Europe (tie with M-30 in Madrid).
370.000 people a day...it's really strange that all of them have such different destinations not reachable by public transport
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Old December 1st, 2010, 02:27 PM   #4774
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370.000 people a day...it's really strange that all of them have such different destinations not reachable by public transport
Cut that number is half, as people travel in each direction daily.

There is already a good Almere-Amsterdam rail link. The problems are:

- Amsterdam Centraal is badly located except for tourism and will be replaced by Amsterdam Zuid as the main city station in 5 (?) years, when the North-South subway line will be completed.

- People in Netherlands commute a lot to work, more than in other European countries. Because the whole Randstad is a distributed area, multi-polarized and multi-centric, it's rather common that each in a couple works at a different city.

- Dutch are thrift. Many don't want to spend 50% of their income just to live in a more expensive place close to work. "Hype" of a trendy neighborhood near a major employment center don't always catch up with workers. They'd rather have more space and bigger houses. Almere x Amsterdam is the extreme example of this: prices per m² in the same housing typology are 30-40% lower in Almere. In many cases, a family will live in a city that IS NOT the workplace of either parent, so both have to commute, usually one by train, other with more inconvenient route by car.

Then, fortunately businesses in NL are not keen to locate themselves in ultrahigh skyscrapers, but many are dispersed. Though they are usually within the reach of a train station (major or minor), cars are usually faster nonetheless, if you account time it takes to go from home to the nearest train station, then change trains 2 or 3 times and so.
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The problem is most Amsterdam housing are rentals, and the left-overs are very upscale expensive housing. Much of the middle class of Amsterdam moved to places like Almere, Purmerend, Hoofddorp and Utrecht-Leidsche Rijn. Similar problems are in Rotterdam, and to a lesser degree in Den Haag and Utrecht.
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The map speaks for itself:

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NL road projects 2009 - 2018 final PNG 8-bit by Chriszwolle, on Flickr
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How about the N33?
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A12 Utrecht - Den Haag

Reports are coming in that the 4th plus lane on A12 between exits Woerden and Gouda has opened.

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Current traffic condition: (17.40 hrs middle of rush hour) ALL CLEAR!
Normally there was a 12 - 20 kilometer traffic jam on this section.
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No, it isn't.



However municipalities can apply an additional "APV" (Algemene Plaatselijke Verordening = General Local Regulation). In this case such a regulation is being communicated by non-RVV signs.
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Exactly. Such signs exists to mark the end of "no parking zones for trucks and trailers" in Italy as well. The regular scheme (a "dimmed grayed" sign with a diagonal strip) wouldn't work because the no-parking regular sign already is a diagonal strip :p
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Cabinet divided over roads policy, transport ministry debate continues

The two coalition parties are divided about how to spend some €20bn the government has set aside for extra roads, it emerged during the first day of debate on the transport ministry budget, Nos tv reports.

VVD transport minister Melanie Schultz van Haegen said last week she planned to focus investment on the ‘economically strong’ regions of Amsterdam-Utrecht, Rotterdam-The Hague and Eindhoven-Venlo.

But the CDA wants to spread funding nationwide.

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‘The cabinet should not simply invest in the economically-strongest regions,’’ said MP Sander De Rouwe during the debate. ‘The government must also look to other parts of the country.’

Labour, the left-wing greens GroenLinks and ChristenUnie support the CDA’s position.

Schultz will reply to MPs later on Wednesday. The minister said earlier she plans to complete 800km of new motorway lanes by 2015.

Tolls

The Telegraaf highlights VVD and PVV calls for the introduction of toll roads, pointing out that both parties were opposed to a kilometre tax during the election campaign and the previous cabinet period.

The VVD backs the building of a double-decker toll bridge to Almere in an effort to ease congestion. The PVV on Tuesday launched the idea of building a new A3 toll motorway through green belt land from Amsterdam to Rotterdam.

At the beginning of November, Schultz did not rule out building new toll roads. ‘Tolls can only be applied to special, extra roads,’ the minister said.

Speed limits

MPs were also critical of plans to put the speed limit up to 130 kph on some roads as soon as possible. Schultz has already said she will wait for safety and environmental reports before taking a decision.

The fundamentalist Christian party SGP says it supports an increase to 130 kph. ‘Or even 135 kph,’ MP Elbert Dijkgraaf said during the debate.

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I'd like to have such a problem. I'm quite happy priorities are being set straight with more money devoted to highways, which hauls more than 80% of intercity traffic, instead of spending too much in ProRail projects.
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