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Old April 27th, 2011, 12:59 AM   #5341
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What's the Oranjetunnel and why are those sheep opposed to it? :-)
A new tunnel to the other side of the New Waterway, so trucks don't have to drive all the way to the Beneluxtunel to cross it from the port.

NIMBY complainers... They don't care that the whole area is full of bloody greenhouses but they whinge about a new road there...
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Old April 27th, 2011, 03:32 AM   #5342
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N356 Holwerd

One of my favorite stretches of N-roads is the last kilometers of the N356 to the ferry pier near Holwerd, where the road goes straight into the Wadden Sea:
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N356 Holwerd by ArthurK, on Flickr.

Vehicles can take the ferry to the island of Ameland:
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Veerboot Oerd 3405 by ArthurK, on Flickr.

The ferries to the Wadden Islands are interesting since they are operated by private shipping companies, but with funding of the government. The harbor facilities are property of Rijkswaterstaat (which is also the Dutch road authority). The ferries are the only way to get to the islands, except when you have your own boat, small airplane or chopper.
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Old April 27th, 2011, 04:01 AM   #5343
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Animation of the new A5/Westrandweg and the new Coentunnel. (still under contstruction)


The 3rd part of the tunnel has been sunk into place yesterday.


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http://rtvnh.nl/nieuws/56221/Derde+d...nel+afgezonken

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Old April 27th, 2011, 10:20 AM   #5344
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I thought all vehicle ferries for the Wadden Island departed from either Den HElder (to Texel) or Harlingen (other islands)
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Old April 27th, 2011, 11:27 AM   #5345
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What's the Oranjetunnel and why are those sheep opposed to it? :-)
It's the A54: http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oranjetunnel

Nimby's website: http://www.oranjetunnel-nee.nl/

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Vehicles can take the ferry to the island of Ameland...
What kind of vehicles are the ones with the numbers on the roof?
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Old April 27th, 2011, 11:39 AM   #5346
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The ferry to:
- Texel departs from Den Helder (vehicles and passengers)
- Vlieland departs from Harlingen (passengers only)
- Terschelling departs from Harlingen (vehicles and passengers)
- Ameland departs from Holwerd (vehicles and passengers)
- Schiermonnikoog departs from Lauwersoog (passengers only)

The things with the numbers on the roof are luggage carts for walk-on passengers. You can check in your suitcase or bag before getting on the ferry, then the carts get rolled onto the ferry, and off on the other end, where you can take your bags. The numbers help you remember where you put your bag.


The green areas are tidal flats. They are above water at low tide.

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Old April 27th, 2011, 01:59 PM   #5347
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Don't forget the ferry from Eemshaven (NL) Wadden Island of Borkum (Germany). Many Dutch don't even know that there is another inhabited island just of our coast. The ferry to Borkum is mainly used by Germans, since the ferry to the German port of Emden takes 2 hours while Eemshaven is just 50 minutes away.

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A picture of two of the ferries from/to Borkum, taken last week at Eemshaven. The first boat is about to enter Eemshaven, while the other is enroute from Emden to Borkum, passing the Eemshaven just a few hundred meters of the coast.
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Old April 27th, 2011, 04:55 PM   #5348
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NIMBY complainers... They don't care that the whole area is full of bloody greenhouses but they whinge about a new road there...
Yep. It's one of the biggest greenhouse areas of Europe (only the coast around Almería has more greenhouses).

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Old April 27th, 2011, 05:05 PM   #5349
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The ferry to:
- Texel departs from Den Helder (vehicles and passengers)
- Vlieland departs from Harlingen (passengers only)
- Terschelling departs from Harlingen (vehicles and passengers)
- Ameland departs from Holwerd (vehicles and passengers)
- Schiermonnikoog departs from Lauwersoog (passengers only)



The green areas are tidal flats. They are above water at low tide.
Frisland could easily enlarge itself draining the tidal flat areas an connecting the islands with mainland. Indeed, the whole Waddenzee didn't exist around year 800-1000.

In any case, I think they should buy an "interisland" road, a road connecting DEn Helder to Ameland crossing all straits with large bridges or tunnels (as there are any deep channels over there, so they can build submersed tunnels instead of boring them).
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Old April 27th, 2011, 05:05 PM   #5350
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I distinctly remember seeing a RR crossing through a motorway in 2000, but I can't remember exactly which one. I DO remember that it was one of the Motorways I took from Druten to Schiphol Airport, so it was either A15, A2, A9 or A4. The signals and gates were there, but I don't know if they were still operational or not.
In the year 2000 there was definately not a RR crossing left on the Dutch motorways. Perhaps you are mixed-up by some bridge, like the Ringvaartbrigde on the A9.
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Old April 27th, 2011, 05:10 PM   #5351
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A74 Venlo

Fantastic news! The Council of State has dismissed all appeals against the construction of the A74 motorway! This means construction can proceed as planned. Construction already commenced in 2010 because Rijkswaterstaat was confident about the record of decision. This new 2 kilometer motorway will finally link the German A61 with the Dutch motorway network after over 30 years of debate. Completion in 2012.
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Old April 27th, 2011, 05:29 PM   #5352
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A74 Venlo

Fantastic news! The Council of State has dismissed all appeals against the construction of the A74 motorway! This means construction can proceed as planned. Construction already commenced in 2010 because Rijkswaterstaat was confident about the record of decision. This new 2 kilometer motorway will finally link the German A61 with the Dutch motorway network after over 30 years of debate. Completion in 2012.
Nice, I do wonder if they finish it on time, they only have 11 months .

All those gaps in our motorway when I look at google maps always made me think ''wtf'' ...
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Old April 27th, 2011, 07:05 PM   #5353
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All those gaps in our motorway when I look at google maps always made me think ''wtf'' ...
The worse missing links IMO are:
-A4 from Delft to Schiedam
-A4 from Dinteloord to Halsteren
-A18 from Varsseveld to Enschede
-A/N31 around Leeuwarden
-A74 from Tegelen to Kaldenkirchen (as mentioned above)
-A/N50 from Ijssel river to Ens

Two of them are U/C and the others are still proposed.
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Old April 27th, 2011, 07:13 PM   #5354
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Actually there is a bit more;

* A4 from Delft to Schiedam will likely commence in late 2011, awaiting final CoS approval
* A4 from Dinteloord to Halsteren; the same
* A18 Varsseveld - Enschede is planned as an N18 upgrade
* N31 around Leeuwarden has been approved, construction will commence late 2011
* A74 arond Venlo is U/C
* A/N50 from IJssel to Ens is U/C

Another missing link currently U/C is the A5 skyway in western Amsterdam.
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Old April 27th, 2011, 08:03 PM   #5355
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So, back on topic then

Pictures of the new N223 road at Hoek van Holland, where ferries to Harwich (UK) depart.
When did this new road open, as it's not on google or OSM yet?

I take it from the signs that the E25 and E30 have been diverted onto this route - it certainly looks like it's a better route from the A4/A20 to the docks, avoiding much of the greenhouse jungle!
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Old April 27th, 2011, 08:11 PM   #5356
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When did this new road open, as it's not on google or OSM yet?
Last week.
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Old April 27th, 2011, 08:12 PM   #5357
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Another missing link currently U/C is the A5 skyway in western Amsterdam.
But I don´t really find that one that necessary but I have no objections against it.

Other MLs could be the A15 from IC Ressen to A12 and the A16 from IC Terbregseplein to A13 but those are highly unlikely to be built, or at least in near future.
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Old April 27th, 2011, 08:16 PM   #5358
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Other MLs could be the A15 from IC Ressen to A12 and the A16 from IC Terbregseplein to A13 but those are highly unlikely to be built, or at least in near future.
Actually, they are actively working on the documentation for these links. A initial / route notice has already been issued for A13-A16 and a design-record of decision is expected in 2011 or 2012.
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Old April 27th, 2011, 08:37 PM   #5359
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Ok. I didn't know that. I thougt there wouldn't be concrete decision before 2020.
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A video on the currently under construction A5 near Amsterdam:
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