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Old November 18th, 2007, 06:20 PM   #561
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A12 The Hague

Hej,

I have some pics from the A12 in the Hague.. I think they are worth while to be exposed here















And a nice Youtube video the other way round...
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=eQp6xj24bC0

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Old November 19th, 2007, 09:08 AM   #562
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I think maybe we can turn our traffic jams in some kind of touristic spot, Japanese and Chinese pay for seeing crazy stuff all the time!

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Old November 19th, 2007, 09:36 AM   #563
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We also LOVE traffic jams! The evidence:

(only over 10km)
A1 Bussum - Watergraafsmeer 16km
A2 Weert-Noord - Leenderheide 14km
A2 Zaltbommel - Everdingen 21km
A2 Oudenrijn - Abcoude 20km
A4 Nieuw-Vennep - Nieuwe Meer 17km
A4 Roelofarendsveen - Zoeterwoude-Dorp 11km
A9 Holendrecht - Brug over de Ringvaart 10km
A9 Beverwijk - Amstelveen 20km
A10 Volendam - Oud-Zuid 14km
A12 Veenendaal - Bunnik 17km
A12 Oudenrijn - Nieuwerbrug 13km
A12 Gouwe - Zoetermeer-Centrum 10km
A16 Princeville - Moerdijkbrug 15km
A16 Ridderkerk-Zuid - Terbregseplein 10km
A20 Maassluis - Prins Alexander 20km
A20 Moordrecht - Rotterdam-Centrum 11km
A27 Noordeloos - Amsterdam-Rijnkanaal 16km
A27 Huizen - Maarssen 15km
A28 Assen - Zuidlaren 10km
A325 Elst - Velperbroek 11km

total: 520km.
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Old November 19th, 2007, 09:43 AM   #564
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The longer, the better

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Old November 19th, 2007, 12:24 PM   #565
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It is tru, it is busy on those Dutch motorways... and they could use some more lanes...

But...

It is not easy to built motorways in in the western part of the Netherlands...

The ground is not easy to built motorways on. There are canals, rivers, ditches in all kinds of sizes. And... Where 2 built them?? Historic sites, built-up areas, nature, agriculture... every centimeter is allready used.
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Old November 19th, 2007, 01:00 PM   #566
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It is tru, it is busy on those Dutch motorways... and they could use some more lanes...

But...

It is not easy to built motorways in in the western part of the Netherlands...

The ground is not easy to built motorways on. There are canals, rivers, ditches in all kinds of sizes. And... Where 2 built them?? Historic sites, built-up areas, nature, agriculture... every centimeter is allready used.
The land use in Holland is amazing. The last time I was there I stayed at a hotel in Leiderdorp. On one side of the hotel was a motorway (there were some trees to hide it), on the other was a canal. The only free space was a small grassy bank, and there were cows and sheep grazing on it

So every centimeter of land gets used.
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Old November 19th, 2007, 02:21 PM   #567
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Is there anybody who can provide a map with the amount of trafic and number of lanes??

Would be nice to have that in this thread
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Old November 19th, 2007, 02:36 PM   #568
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Aren't some kind of that maps already shown in this topic? I know Chris made some of those.
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Old November 19th, 2007, 03:06 PM   #569
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Yep number of lanes... but not amount of traffic.. i think
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Old November 19th, 2007, 05:29 PM   #570
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I can make those when i am back from work, tonight.
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Old November 19th, 2007, 10:02 PM   #571
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As promised, the map;

I guess it explains itself.

Black is extremely busy, red is busy, blue is regular to busy, and green is quite low traffic.

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Old November 19th, 2007, 11:00 PM   #572
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good work Chris. A12 & A2 r extremely busy while going to Utrecht & amsterdam. And interesting is that last year the trains running parallal to these stretches were also down most of time
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Old November 19th, 2007, 11:09 PM   #573
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And interesting is that last year the trains running parallal to these stretches were also down most of time
Why should that be interesting? Trains not running does affect the number of traffic jams, because the capacity is already 100% taken, each car more causes more traffic jams. The total traffic volume rises only marginal though.

By the way, i based this map on the latest official year-round counts, which are from 2005.

Did you know, each day, 4 more cars are added to the Dutch roads? That are 1.460 cars each year. Might sound a lot, but that is really nothing, only an increase of less than 0,02% per year. More cars are added in Beijing daily than in the Netherlands anually. Though the increase of cars is low, traffic jams rise 10 - 20% anually. The rushhour capacity is absolutely taken, so the rushhour becomes longer and longer.
This morning, rushhour lasted from 5.45 to 11.30, so an increase of 0,5% traffic can cause 10% more traffic jams.
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Old November 19th, 2007, 11:21 PM   #574
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my post was just to highlight that that region is most busiest . Also few hick ups in train service does not influence the traffic volume so drastically if u analyse annually
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Old November 19th, 2007, 11:50 PM   #575
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Motorway with a pedestrian crossing ?
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Old November 20th, 2007, 12:42 AM   #576
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The intensities of traffic are really insane, especially taken into account that many of those motorways are 2x2.

And to think that here in Portugal, in non urban motorways, concessionaries ought to enlarge to 2x3 if the AADT surpasses 35000 and to 2x4 if it's over 60000.
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Old November 20th, 2007, 10:30 AM   #577
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Those last 3 pics are on the exit, not on the motorway. Impressive though.
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Old November 20th, 2007, 10:31 AM   #578
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And to think that here in Portugal, in non urban motorways, concessionaries ought to enlarge to 2x3 if the AADT surpasses 35000 and to 2x4 if it's over 60000.
Yeah i heard about that, and to be frank, that's completely unnecessary. You can see congestion on 2x2 roads over 70.000 AADT. 35.000 is a very low volume.
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Old November 20th, 2007, 11:46 AM   #579
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In this picture, are ALL of those roads motorways?

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Old November 20th, 2007, 12:09 PM   #580
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yes, they are..
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