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Old August 12th, 2011, 04:34 PM   #5901
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Global warming
It's not getting warmer, it's getting colder.
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Old August 12th, 2011, 04:54 PM   #5902
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Depends where is getting colder. Not all places around the Earth are effected like that!

Anyway, hope less traffic will be this weekend as well. Now is raining from Belgium border up to Groningen on the north Lekker! My car will be washed again
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Old August 12th, 2011, 05:11 PM   #5903
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming_controversy
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Old August 12th, 2011, 06:16 PM   #5904
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Depends where is getting colder. Not all places around the Earth are effected like that!
That's the point. Global warming refers to an average warming of the planet as a whole. The effect of that is a much messier climate leading to very wet summers in the Netherlands.

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Anyway, hope less traffic will be this weekend as well. Now is raining from Belgium border up to Groningen on the north Lekker! My car will be washed again
Yeah it's very easy to keep your car clean these days.

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The key sentence being:

"In the scientific literature, there is a strong consensus that global surface temperatures have increased in recent decades and that the trend is caused mainly by human-induced emissions of greenhouse gases. No scientific body of national or international standing disagrees with this view, though a few organisations hold non-committal positions."
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Old August 12th, 2011, 06:22 PM   #5905
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That's the point. Global warming refers to an average warming of the planet as a whole. The effect of that is a much messier climate leading to very wet summers in the Netherlands.
When I was a PhD student in astronomy, we had to attend to seminar courses of various subjects - math, geology, and such. Every time we had some climatologist to lecture, I asked how did they define the average temperature of the Earth, and how do they measure it avoiding undersampling and other biasing effect.

Still waiting for an answer.
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Old August 12th, 2011, 06:22 PM   #5906
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Sure, but the "global surface increase" has been, so far, beyond anything that an human can perceive with his/her body.
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Old August 12th, 2011, 08:13 PM   #5907
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When I was a PhD student in astronomy, we had to attend to seminar courses of various subjects - math, geology, and such. Every time we had some climatologist to lecture, I asked how did they define the average temperature of the Earth, and how do they measure it avoiding undersampling and other biasing effect.

Still waiting for an answer.
As I recall they use local measurements with a long history to record past and present temperature changes. I forget how they then come to a global average but when it was explained to me, it seemed a bit murky indeed. Mostly so the part where they conclude a 2 degree average rise (whatever that is) is OK, but anything beyond it is catastrophic.

That doesn't change the founding principle of global warming (CO2 and methane make things hotter) or the fact temperatures appear to be rising in most places, of course.

But this may not be the thread to discuss these things
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Old August 12th, 2011, 08:53 PM   #5908
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Global warming? Dutch Motorways? Why not the 2012 POTUS elections? Please keep on-topic
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Old August 13th, 2011, 08:11 PM   #5909
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All McDonald's in the Netherlands (and most of Europe) have free wifi.
I was in Germany about 3 months ago, the McD in some hole there was very primitive, you needed to be a member of something/pay up for the wifi in it and you couldn't even pay with pin/debit card. What McD is so retarded that you can only pay in cash? Also noticed many McD abroad seem to be slower than here, Germany, Poland, they seem to not grasp the idea of FAST Food, waiting there for food takes longer than at a restaurant here and the employees seem to be taking their time with things.

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Can't wait for construction to finally start on the small stretch of A4 in R'dam & Delft, I'll try to take some pics when they do.
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Old August 13th, 2011, 08:26 PM   #5910
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Due to privacy issues, only people with SMS verification can use the free wifi at McDonalds in Germany. This only works with a domestic cell phone, hence foreigners cannot use it. I found this out 2 years ago when I tried the McDonald's wifi in Selb (Bayern). By the way, until a few years ago I also knew Dutch McDonald's where you couldn't pay other than with cash.
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Old August 14th, 2011, 11:49 AM   #5911
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A 1920's drive-thru house in Amsterdam:
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Old August 14th, 2011, 11:55 AM   #5912
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Nice one. Is someone actually living there?
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Old August 14th, 2011, 01:40 PM   #5913
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Why not? And when you take a look at the windows you will see.
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Old August 14th, 2011, 01:48 PM   #5914
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Nice one. Is someone actually living there?
I should think so. We have quite many of these in The Hague (apartment buildings). Most of them are from the 1920s and 1930s but I don't know if that was the only period of time in which they were commonly built (maybe Chris knows):

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Old August 14th, 2011, 04:19 PM   #5915
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A2 Oudenrijn - Everdingen

The 4th southbound lane between interchanges Oudenrijn and Everdingen opened to traffic yesterday, August 7th. The new lane will reduce traffic congestion, and eliminate a 2x3 bottleneck between a 2x4 and 2x5 section around Utrecht. They will widen the northbound carriageway to 4 lanes as well, which will be completed in October 2011.
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There are 2x3 through lanes at interchange Everdingen. The next 2x4 sector starts 1 km from here.


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Old August 14th, 2011, 07:35 PM   #5916
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I'm curious, this little white sign underneath (gas station 17 km), does that show the distance until next gas station? If that's the case I like this idea, it helps plan ahead.
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I still believe that the Netherlands has the worst 20th century architecture in the world together with Belgium and the UK.
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Old August 14th, 2011, 08:05 PM   #5918
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I'm curious, this little white sign underneath (gas station 17 km), does that show the distance until next gas station? If that's the case I like this idea, it helps plan ahead.
Yep, it shows the distance to the next service area (with a gas station obviously). As with most other things in the Netherlands, we copied this from Germany. Still, better well copied than invented badly.

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Old August 14th, 2011, 08:34 PM   #5919
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I think it's also a good idea to always display the name of the gas station on the signs. (BP, Shell, Total etc)
They have always done this in Holland, Italy and France, in Germany they only started doing this a few years ago. They never do in the UK. I've got a few fuelcards supplied by the company I work for. The main ones we use is the Eurotrafic card from Total. In Austria they accept them at some OMV's stations, as there are no Totals there. Displaying them stops pro-drivers from pulling into a rest area all the time to check if it's the right one if they're running low on fuel.

Other cards we have: AS24, BP for UK only, EDS...
We used to have DKV, but they are too expensive. We also use to use IDS but they cancelled the contract, as we used it in Sweden or Finland only where there is no eurotrafic available. They do ask us to use AS24 or EDS a bit more, they are unmanned stations off the motorway. I can't be bothered. I want to fill up, coffee and keep going. Eurotrafic is THE card for me. I can pay the tolls in France and Spain with that as well.
For Italy I've got my VIA-card.
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Old August 14th, 2011, 08:50 PM   #5920
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It is a smart idea indeed, it would be even smarter if we charged the gas stations for it!
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