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Old October 24th, 2011, 02:16 PM   #6241
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Looks pretty interesting
Any traffic jams planned for time of work :] ? Hope will go smooth cause after A50 got 3rd lane (northbound from knpt. Valburg) driving on A50 is doable without staying in a traffic jams )
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Old October 25th, 2011, 09:29 PM   #6242
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The A67 from Postel (border crossing Belgium into The Netherlands) - Eindhoven (A2) to Venlo (interchange Zaarderheiken):
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Old October 25th, 2011, 10:41 PM   #6243
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Rijksstraatweg

The Rijksstraatweg, which can be translated as a Nation Street Road, used to be of great importance, however traffic was hindered by the many rivers and canals. Most large rivers weren't bridged until the 1930's when many arch bridges were constructed. Prior to that, railroads were the only fixed links across these rivers. This especially hampered north-south traffic which had to use ferries.

Most rijksstraatwegen do exist in some form today, however one often cannot distinguish them from other roads except with old road maps. The Dutch (government) have an obsession to perfect this country as much as possible, which means that old roads are usually paved over, realigned, traffic-calmed or narrowed. Even the amount of roads with a 1960's feeling to it is declining quickly, accelerated by the "sustainable safety" program that was initiated in the late 1990's. Hence, almost no roads with a layout similar to that of before 1930 exist.

The Netherlands did not have many dead-straight roads as you can find in France or Germany, many follow river dikes or just run from town to town without appearing as any more significant than other roads in the area.

The Netherlands was one of the earliest nations in the world to adopt a large-scale motorway programme, starting in the mid 1930's, and before World War II a considerable amount of motorways were constructed in the west of the country. Because of this early construction, not much attention was given to secondary roads nearby, and that is why our secondary road network fails so hard to provide a backup.

This is considerably different from France, which had only one long-distance motorway corridor completed by the late 1960's (Lille - Paris - Lyon - Marseille). While France was constructing a nationwide network of motorways in the 1970's and well into the 1980's, the Netherlands had already completed most of its motorway network in the early 1970's.
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Old October 26th, 2011, 02:42 AM   #6244
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accelerated by the "sustainable safety" program that was initiated in the late 1990's.

Aaargh, ''duurzaam debiel'' (okay Duurzaam Veilig, but I call it Duurzaam debiel) is ruining many many roads, every part of the government ( The national one, the Provinces and the Gemeentes) is after the money for duurzaam debiel and are throwing traffic at each other. A mate of mine asked the gemeente why a road was being fubar-ed, and the gemeente replied that they have to build it with all the traffic calming crap from ''duurzaam debiel'' to get the money. Gemeentes are also discouraging traffic and throwing it on the Provincial roads, and the provinces do the same back...

The roads in Holland have been completely messed up because of duuzaam debiel imho, yeah it's very ''sustainable'' to accelerate and brake for a speed bump every 50-100 meters, to force all traffic onto ''main'' roads which are already congested, and discourage anyone to take an alternative route...
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Old October 27th, 2011, 08:43 PM   #6245
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A12 Arnhem

Visualizations of the widening that is currently in progress along A12 in northern Arnhem. The motorway will be widened from 2x2 to 2x3 lanes. Because it was built in 1961, it does not have a space reservation for more lanes, all viaducts and bridges need to be rebuild.









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Old October 28th, 2011, 01:47 PM   #6246
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Does this mean the valley bridge also needs rebuilding? Do you know what the new one will look like?
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Old October 28th, 2011, 01:55 PM   #6247
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It appears a new span is built on either side of it, which means the existing bridge will be widened, but not replaced entirely.
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Old October 28th, 2011, 02:17 PM   #6248
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OK, thanks.
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Old October 31st, 2011, 04:30 PM   #6249
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A1: Shoulder Running

Shoulder Running went into operation today along the A1 motorway north of Hilversum. The shoulders were converted for peak hour usage in both directions. This motorway has 2x2 lanes and carries up to 110 000 vehicles per day and is one of the most congested roadways in the Netherlands. Traffic flow will improve greatly along this corridor.

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Old November 1st, 2011, 12:15 PM   #6250
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A15 Rotterdam

Preparatory works for the widening of A15 to 10 lanes along the south side of Rotterdam. As you can see it will be quite a bit wider.

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Old November 1st, 2011, 02:18 PM   #6251
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Nice to see thins going.
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Old November 1st, 2011, 02:55 PM   #6252
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what's with the green makings?
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Old November 1st, 2011, 03:34 PM   #6253
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They indicate two-lane roads that have expressway status (usually 100 km/h limit). This video is quite close to where I live.
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Old November 1st, 2011, 04:33 PM   #6254
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A1: Shoulder Running...
Chris, what does it mean plus lane? Can You explain, or show example? Please..
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A plus lane is a physical widening of the motorway, on the left side, where a lane can be opened during peak times. They vary in design standard, some are as wide as the regular lanes, others are more narrow. They are not the same as HOV lanes in the U.S. As far as I know the Netherlands is the only country in the world which uses this type of lanes. They did it because procedures for plus lanes used to be faster and less complex.

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Old November 1st, 2011, 04:54 PM   #6256
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They indicate two-lane roads that have expressway status (usually 100 km/h limit). This video is quite close to where I live.
So you have this green line everywhere there is road like this?
Is that new thing?
Are there other colours as well for other types of roads`?
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Old November 1st, 2011, 05:30 PM   #6257
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Green painting symbolize grass - no possible to cross, so in reality you have felling of driving on dual carriageway with 1 lanes (with divider in between) so speed limit is higher = 100 km/h

Just simple explanation of typical Dutch approach to European reality and easy to remember
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Old November 1st, 2011, 05:36 PM   #6258
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Green painting symbolize grass - no possible to cross, so in reality you have felling of driving on two one way lanes with divider in between so speed limit is higher = 100 km/h

Just simple explanation of typical Dutch approach to European reality and easy to remember
Yes, it makes perfect sense. Everytime I get to a traffic light that it's green I think that it's grass and I can't cross it
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Actually passing is allowed on some of these roads.

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N48-8 by Chriszwolle, on Flickr

(photo taken during construction works, that's why there is no traffic on it)
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Old November 1st, 2011, 07:27 PM   #6260
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I was looking at maps near my grandparents' hometown of Druten and I was curious about something. It almost looks as if N322 is being slowly upgraded, and the transition between N322 to A73 at the A50/Knooppunt Valburg interchange is pretty smooth. Are there plans to eventually have N322 become upgraded to Motorway standards and become part of an extended A73? I'm trying to find information about it, but haven't found anything, not even on Wikipedia.
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