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Old November 1st, 2011, 07:33 PM   #6261
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Green painting symbolize grass - no possible to cross, so in reality you have felling of driving on dual carriageway with 1 lanes (with divider in between) so speed limit is higher = 100 km/h
Green might mean "grass", but I know of at least a long sector (N302 over Houtribdijk) where there is dotted lanes allowing overtaking with a green "median".
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Old November 1st, 2011, 08:03 PM   #6262
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They wan to extend the non-overtaking part sadly For road safety Like that's gonna help...

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I was looking at maps near my grandparents' hometown of Druten and I was curious about something. It almost looks as if N322 is being slowly upgraded, and the transition between N322 to A73 at the A50/Knooppunt Valburg interchange is pretty smooth. Are there plans to eventually have N322 become upgraded to Motorway standards and become part of an extended A73? I'm trying to find information about it, but haven't found anything, not even on Wikipedia.
I wouldn't expect much since the part from Druten to Beneden Leeuwen recently was opened as a 2x1 road.. With green road markings btw If I recall it right, you're not allowed to overtake there, despite a 3 km long straight bit
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Old November 2nd, 2011, 01:07 AM   #6263
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So you have this green line everywhere there is road like this?
Is that new thing?
Are there other colours as well for other types of roads`?
It's meant to distinguish between roads where the maximum speed is 80km/h and roads where the maximum speed is 100km/h. Roads with a maximum speed of 80km/h (or less such as 60km/h) do not have any color coding.

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Old November 2nd, 2011, 01:42 PM   #6264
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Regarding "geen middenstrepen" - is correct on the picture? Cause as I remember if you have no middle line markering speed limit by default is 60 km/h. Am I right?
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Old November 2nd, 2011, 01:51 PM   #6265
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Regarding "geen middenstrepen" - is correct on the picture? Cause as I remember if you have no middle line markering speed limit by default is 60 km/h. Am I right?
No.

There is no "default 60km/h limit" in Netherlands, only 120, 100, 80 and 50 (within urban areas).
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Old November 2nd, 2011, 01:51 PM   #6266
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Yep. The most stupid decision ever in the Netherlands to remove the center road marking and at the same time push edge markings further to the center. Many people still keep left of the edge markings, and if you encounter another car, it won't fit.
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Old November 2nd, 2011, 01:52 PM   #6267
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EDIT: 2 people responded before me. I was trying to answer Mappero's question.

Not exactly.

Speed limits are:
50 km/h inside urban area
80 km/h outside urban area
100 km/h on exoressways
120 km/h on motorways

Unless otherwise indicated by signs. These signs may say 60 km/h.

The road markings have no legal meaning for the speed limit. So if there is no center line, but also no sign, the speed limit still is 80 km/h.

The road authorities are trying to harmonize speed limits and road layouts, but the signs are the only legal speed limit indicators. There are plenty of roads without a center line, with an 80 km/h speed limit.
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Old November 2nd, 2011, 01:54 PM   #6268
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Yep. The most stupid decision ever in the Netherlands to remove the center road marking and at the same time push edge markings further to the center. Many people still keep left of the edge markings, and if you encounter another car, it won't fit.
agree that is just stupid
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Old November 2nd, 2011, 02:09 PM   #6269
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Express way (blue sign with car) means 100 km/h? Never seen this sitaution in NL. Always is this:

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Old November 2nd, 2011, 02:19 PM   #6270
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Yes, the "autoweg" (expressway) sign always means 100 km/h, unless otherwise signed (as in your example). Just like the "autosnelweg" (motorway) sign always means 120 km/h unless otherwise signed.
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Old November 2nd, 2011, 02:22 PM   #6271
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Good to know. I was told by Dutch drivers autoweg has now default speed limit at all...
Now, I will overtake slow cars without braking law Thanks!
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Old November 2nd, 2011, 02:34 PM   #6272
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Without the 80 km/h sign the speed limit would be 100km/h. Here are a couple of examples:

N31
N280
N11
N246
N322
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Old November 3rd, 2011, 05:30 PM   #6273
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Nice animation on how they build the West Amsterdam Skyway (A5):

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Old November 4th, 2011, 11:32 PM   #6274
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Today 38 years ago, November 4th, 1973, a car-free Sunday in Amsterdam. Shown is the A10 motorway just north of the Coen Tunnel portal.
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Old November 5th, 2011, 12:17 AM   #6275
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Dyane's owner must be a foreign ignorant certainly.
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Old November 5th, 2011, 01:08 AM   #6276
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According to nu.nl it was a german car, so the rules did not aply to them! (the picture is from nu.nl)
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Old November 5th, 2011, 11:40 PM   #6277
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Today 38 years ago, November 4th, 1973, a car-free Sunday in Amsterdam.
1973 oil crisis?
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Yep.
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Old November 5th, 2011, 11:46 PM   #6279
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Yes, car-free Sundays happened often in that time. They still happen, but they're not obligatory and most people don't join it anymore. Traffic volumes are not lower than other Sundays. Sometimes they close a few residential streets for children's games, but certainly not major roads. There is another alternative, the "traffic jam free day", where they urge people to leave their cars for a day and work at home or use the bicycle or public transport to work. Usually it doesn't make a dent in traffic congestion statistics.

I remember in 2007 or 2008 there was the first traffic jam-free day in over 5 years, I believe it was on a Sunday on December 30th or something. There hasn't been a traffic-jam free day ever since.
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Old November 5th, 2011, 11:50 PM   #6280
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I remember in 2007 or 2008 there was the first traffic jam-free day in over 5 years, I believe it was on a Sunday on December 30th or something. There hasn't been a traffic-jam free day ever since.
That was december 30th 2007. The day before this was somewhere in 2002 if I remember correctly...
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