daily menu » rate the banner | guess the city | one on oneforums map | privacy policy | DMCA | news magazine | posting guidelines

Go Back   SkyscraperCity > Infrastructure and Mobility Forums > Highways & Autobahns

Highways & Autobahns All about automobility



Global Announcement

As a general reminder, please respect others and respect copyrights. Go here to familiarize yourself with our posting policy.


Reply

 
Thread Tools
Old December 22nd, 2011, 01:18 AM   #6441
aswnl
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: near Amsterdam (NL)
Posts: 932
Likes (Received): 84

Some historic pics of Dutch motorways.


A16 near Rivium, 1968


A12 east of Oudenrijn interchange, just before the reconstruction from roundabout into a cloverleaf was completed. 1968.


A16 near Kralingen, 1974


A16 near Terbregseplein, 1974


A65 at Vught interchange, around 1969. Traffic to Utrecht was still routed through the city center of Den Bosch, because the new Maasbridge near Hedel wasn't completed yet.


A15 junction Rhoon. This junction was a discontinuity of the motorway, because there was no overpass for the A15 at first. September 1984.

Last edited by aswnl; December 22nd, 2011 at 01:29 AM.
aswnl no está en línea   Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Old December 22nd, 2011, 08:36 PM   #6442
zsmg
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 82
Likes (Received): 1202

Interesting that only the E-numbers are displayed but not the A-numbers.
zsmg no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old December 22nd, 2011, 09:44 PM   #6443
Gereke
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Amsterdam
Posts: 1,130
Likes (Received): 237

The A-numbers didn't exist back then. Also note they are the first generation of E-numbers.
Gereke no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old December 22nd, 2011, 10:47 PM   #6444
Bothar.G
Registered User
 
Bothar.G's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Galway, IRL
Posts: 122
Likes (Received): 1

Looks very nice.
Bothar.G no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old December 23rd, 2011, 10:36 PM   #6445
GROBIN
Conducteur infatigable
 
GROBIN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Francilien délocalisé, issu de la diversité
Posts: 712
Likes (Received): 1607

Quote:
Originally Posted by zsmg View Post
Interesting that only the E-numbers are displayed but not the A-numbers.
I noticed that too ! Was that like a common system with Belgium at the time ?

Maybe the whole Europe should put only E-numbers on E-roads to simplify roadsigns ?
__________________
Everyone smiles in the same language.
Self-called tolerant people tend to be tolerant only with people with similar opinions & call others "retards".


Been Drove Rode my bike Lived:
A AND AUS B BIH BY CZ D E EST ET F FIN GB H HR I IL L LT LV MAL MC PL RI SGP SK SLO T TN USA UA YV

"Richtgeschwindigkeit" should be the default system in all EU motorways & expressways & lane indiscipline should be harshly fought! Down with radars on motorways!
GROBIN no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old December 24th, 2011, 03:03 PM   #6446
-Pino-
Funkin' down the Track
 
-Pino-'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Amsterdam
Posts: 706
Likes (Received): 127

The system was common with pretty much all of continental Western Europe, not only with Belgium. But step by step, the likes of Germany, the Netherlands, France moved over to signposting their national numbers. I think that that step had to do with having a growing motorway network, in which not all motorways could be covered with E-numbers.

Your thought about simplifying signage by only signposting E-numbers sounds nice, but I do not like the idea that you have motorways of equal standard and equal importance of which part would happen to be within the European network (thus signposted E) and part would happen to be out (thus signposted A). I think that motorists benefit from road numbering based on the principle that routes with equal function get the same prefix.
__________________
http://www.brombeer.net/signs
-Pino- no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old December 24th, 2011, 07:36 PM   #6447
Road_UK
BANNED
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Mayrhofen AT, Sneek NL, Bromley UK
Posts: 5,855
Likes (Received): 1599

It goes to show, that the Netherlands had a decent road system, even back in the 60's. I've been told that the quality of road surface was good in the old days, and from what I see in these pictures, road signs appear clear and efficient. What was Belgium like in these days?
Road_UK no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old December 24th, 2011, 08:00 PM   #6448
darko06
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 775
Likes (Received): 149

I remember that, in 1972, A2 from Utrecht to Amsterdam was designated not as a motorway, but as a road reserved for automobiles (which is today designation for an expressway). That "road reserved for automobiles" was fully build motorway except one detail: soon after Utrecht in direction Amsterdam there was a(n industrial) railroad level crossing with signal and barriers. Can someone confirm this, please?
darko06 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old December 24th, 2011, 08:45 PM   #6449
keokiracer
Roadgeek from NL
 
keokiracer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Halsteren (NL)
Posts: 3,675
Likes (Received): 2629

Quote:
Originally Posted by darko06 View Post
soon after Utrecht in direction Amsterdam there was a(n industrial) railroad level crossing with signal and barriers. Can someone confirm this, please?
I thought that was near Nieuwegein/Vianen, just south of Utrecht, but it turns out you are right, it was near Breukelen:
Pics and info in Dutch
keokiracer no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old December 24th, 2011, 09:50 PM   #6450
darko06
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 775
Likes (Received): 149

Thank you very much for the confirmation. In 1972 I was ten years old, and my family (me included) was at vacation in the Netherlands. My father was driving the VW Beetle from Zagreb to Amsterdam in two days (and reverse after two weeks).
darko06 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old December 24th, 2011, 10:46 PM   #6451
Road_UK
BANNED
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Mayrhofen AT, Sneek NL, Bromley UK
Posts: 5,855
Likes (Received): 1599

Quote:
Originally Posted by darko06 View Post
Thank you very much for the confirmation. In 1972 I was ten years old, and my family (me included) was at vacation in the Netherlands. My father was driving the VW Beetle from Zagreb to Amsterdam in two days (and reverse after two weeks).
It would take me two weeks as well, if I had to drive from Amsterdam to Zagreb in reverse.
Road_UK no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old December 24th, 2011, 10:52 PM   #6452
Attus
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Rheinbach
Posts: 2,772
Likes (Received): 1039

:-D
Attus no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old December 24th, 2011, 11:31 PM   #6453
darko06
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 775
Likes (Received): 149

In those times, motorway began near Salzburg, so we spend a whole day from Zagreb to Salzburg (where we stayed at night). At the evening of second day we arrived in Amsterdam.
darko06 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old December 25th, 2011, 11:03 AM   #6454
Godius
Nitimur in vetitum
 
Godius's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Leeuwarden
Posts: 2,588
Likes (Received): 4069

Quote:
Originally Posted by Road_UK View Post
It would take me two weeks as well, if I had to drive from Amsterdam to Zagreb in reverse.
Haha, lol.
Godius no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old December 25th, 2011, 01:33 PM   #6455
Bobbje
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 66
Likes (Received): 33

Quote:
Originally Posted by Road_UK View Post
It would take me two weeks as well, if I had to drive from Amsterdam to Zagreb in reverse.
Go to holland and buy a DAF, They will do it in 2 days to.
Bobbje no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old December 25th, 2011, 08:32 PM   #6456
Jeroen669
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 787
Likes (Received): 13




Jeroen669 no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old December 26th, 2011, 01:16 AM   #6457
keokiracer
Roadgeek from NL
 
keokiracer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Halsteren (NL)
Posts: 3,675
Likes (Received): 2629

André van Duin

To all people who don't speak/understand Dutch. If you would speak/understand Dutch, you'd be laughing at this video for the entire 23 mins
keokiracer no está en línea   Reply With Quote
Old December 27th, 2011, 02:04 PM   #6458
ChrisZwolle
Road user
 
ChrisZwolle's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Zwolle
Posts: 43,631
Likes (Received): 19427

A12 Ede - Arnhem widening

Rijkswaterstaat has published a record of decision on the last leg of the year to widen A12 from Ede to interchange Grijsoord (12 km) from 2x2 to 2x3 lanes. This is the second-to-last project to widen A12 across the country to six lanes minimum.

The widening project is relatively easy, although the motorway was constructed in the mid-1950's, which means some bridges need to be replaced. No interchanges will be significantly reconfigured, although the Oosterbeek exit will be realigned. The A12 will be widened from 4 to 6 lanes, using the available space on the side of the road. No buildings need to be demolished. Additionally, A50 northbound will be widened from 3 to 4 lanes between a rest area and interchange Grijsoord for a distance of approximately 1 kilometer. The connector roads from Utrecht to Eindhoven and vice versa in the Grijsoord interchange will be widened from 1 to 2 lanes each.

ChrisZwolle está en línea ahora   Reply With Quote
Old December 27th, 2011, 06:02 PM   #6459
ChrisZwolle
Road user
 
ChrisZwolle's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Zwolle
Posts: 43,631
Likes (Received): 19427

A few photos of A12 east of Utrecht. It is currently being widened from 2x2 to 2x3 / 2x4 / shoulder running. It's interesting to note the speed limit is 100 km/h during the road works, I've never seen that elsewhere in Europe.













ChrisZwolle está en línea ahora   Reply With Quote
Old December 27th, 2011, 08:29 PM   #6460
Agnette
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 271
Likes (Received): 29

Chris can You explain this sign? What does it mean?:

Agnette no está en línea   Reply With Quote


Reply

Tags
congestion, dutch, friesland, highways, motorways, netherlands

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Related topics on SkyscraperCity


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 10:19 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

vBulletin Optimisation provided by vB Optimise (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2018 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

SkyscraperCity ☆ In Urbanity We trust ☆ about us | privacy policy | DMCA policy

tech management by Sysprosium