[NL] Roads and Motorways in the Netherlands • Autosnelwegen

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[keokiracer]

All 155(!) pics can be found here (with locations and info in Dutch)


Between the A4 en the junction with the N259 and N286 a left lane has gotten it's first 2 layers of asphalt.


The road over the viaduct for agricultural traffic (temporarily for all traffic). The slope on the east side of the A4


The Lagemetenweg used to be here. The asphalt has been removed and the sound barrier is already nearly as high as the surrounding sound barriers


Start of the new layer of asphalt


Traffic from Bergen Op Zoom will probably drive via this road to the N259 from june 18th


Traffic will pass here


and will go further towards the N259. A new fence has been placed on the edge of forest 'Dassenberg'


Former Nuijten farm: Future lanes towards Bergen Op Zoom.


Aqueduct Steenbergen: Coming closer is impossible (picture)


Slope N259 (looking south) just north of Steenbergen. The N259 will go over the A4 here.


Zuidzeedijk (between Dinteloord and Steenbergen) on the south side: for now the building activity stops at the Steenbergsche Vliet


Between the Zuidzeedijk and Dinteloord. Looking towards Dinteloord (northbound, with zoom)


Looking towards the Zuidzeedijk (south): Pretty big difference between the height of both carriageways. Probably around 50 cms


Viaduct exit Dinteloord. The N259/N268 will go over the A4 here too.


One of the 2 roads for construction vehicles towards the Steenbergen aqueduct


This one is from the temporary roundabout, this one is a bit wider.

[ChrisZwolle]

What kind of camera do you use, the photos look grainy...

[keokiracer]

That was a fingerprint on the lens.... I found that out after I came back home

I use the same camera I use for my driving videos (I don't have another cam). It's a JVC Everio GZ-HD520.
Click for a pic (the pic is insanely big)

[ChrisZwolle]

The "Utrechtsebaan" - A12 motorway - in Den Haag under construction in 1976. It was part of a large-scale urban renewal project. Contrary to popular belief, there was no large-scale demolition for the construction of the motorway alone. The entire neighborhood was demolished, but the motorway's alignment only took up 1.100 meters, the rest of the alignment the A12 uses was preserved (east of the Den Haag - Amsterdam railway). Less than 5% of the regenerated area was actually used for the motorway (even less than 2% if you consider a larger adjacent regenerated area). Most offices on top of A12 were constructed in the first half of the 1990's.


Beeldbank RWS

[ChrisZwolle]

The 1936 Moerdijk Bridge was replaced by a wider bridge in 1976. Because the bridge could not be closed for a long time due to traffic constraints, they replaced segment by segment on the existing piers. You can see the new decks are three times as wide as the original bridge.


Beeldbank RWS

[Vignole]

Oooh!, if you like civil engineering, the Netherlands are simply impressive. Thanks for the pics, I really appreciate it.

[ChrisZwolle]

2011 recorded 661 traffic fatalities in the Netherlands, an increase of 3.3% compared to 2010. The main factor was the amount of fatalities among people over 65. 269 people over 65 years of age were killed in 2011, an increase of 60. The number of cyclists killed increased by 23%, and 38% among cyclists over the age of 65.

28 people were killed on motorways with a speed limit of 120 km/h (4%). Another 14 were killed on motorways and expressways with a speed limit of 100 km/h. One pedestrian was killed on an offramp of a 130 km/h motorway. The feared increase in traffic fatalities because of the 130 km/h trials has not occurred, as a matter of fact traffic fatalities on roads with 100 or 120/130 km/h speed limits dropped by nearly 40%.

Stats:


The source for road type are the police, which does not give a 100% registration rate for all accidents, hence the number is lower than the 661.

[Godius]

There was an article in the newspaper that stated that the residential area sign (a) will change to a normal max speed sign of 15km/ph max (b). This surely must be a PVV demand because their voters can't understand a simple sign like the RAS.

(a):

(b):

[g.spinoza]

I agree it's easier to understand. I didn't quite like the previous sign, it looked like a "public park area" sign.

[ChrisZwolle]

The concept of a "woonerf" is not implemented anymore anyway. It was mainly a 1970's/1980's design.

[Rebasepoiss]

I agree that people are too stupid to understand that sign but a simple speed limit sign doesn't really have the same meaning i.e. right of way for pedestrians etc.

[g.spinoza]

There's no need. If you really go 15 km/h, pedestrians outspeed you and you don't even have to yield

[keokiracer]

Originally Posted by g.spinoza

If you really go 15 km/h, pedestrians outspeed you

Umm, pedestrians walk around 6 km/h (of course old people slower and some faster)

[Stahlsturm]

Originally Posted by Godius

There was an article in the newspaper that stated that the residential area sign (a) will change to a normal max speed sign of 15km/ph max (b). This surely must be a PVV demand because their voters can't understand a simple sign like the RAS.

(a):

(b):

My Speedometer starts at 20 (and goes up to 260...), doing 15 reliably might be a serious problem, hahaha.

[Slagathor]

I'd like to meet the guy who can do more than 10-15 in those typical 1980s woonerven. One of my friends lives in one, it's the most terrible driving experience ever. The street is so cramped it might as well be medieval. Then there's all trees and benches sticking out. Jesus. Makes me feel like I should be traveling by horse. Or pony.

[g.spinoza]

Originally Posted by keokiracer

Umm, pedestrians walk around 6 km/h (of course old people slower and some faster)

I was using irony

[keokiracer]

didn't realize that

[ChrisZwolle]

A typical woonerf designed neighborhood in Zwolle.

Narrow, mostly dead-end residential streets, no separate sidewalks, but usually designated parking lots. Small-scale, low-traffic neighborhoods. Usually at least one internal 30 km/h road serves traffic to and from these neighborhoods. They are surrounded by a network of main roads with a 50 km/h speed limit, intersections either with roundabouts, traffic signals or uncontrolled intersections.

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[Surel]

Originally Posted by ChrisZwolle

The concept of a "woonerf" is not implemented anymore anyway. It was mainly a 1970's/1980's design.

On streets where there is no sidewalk, streets which become the kids playground, and they are in fact used only by the people that live there is 15 km/h nor 30 km/h not appropriate solution instead of the woonerf. At least so do say people living in the street.

funny, that this comes close to the rules or no rules discussion topic. The only drivers in such streets are the inhabitants or their visits. And at the same time the inhabitants complain about "te hard rijden". This clearly shows that the free choice is not really the best solution in all cases for a social group. But we could also argue that the street design with no sidewalks and little "social" space mainly for the kids is without traffic regulation faultly.