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Old June 9th, 2012, 02:52 PM   #7381
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In the UK we have lots of lorry traffic on many motorways, and there are only two or three experimental sections of road with lorry overtaking bans. On roads such as the M25 I have seen lorries in lanes 1, 2, 3 and 4 overtaking each other at perhaps 0.25km/h difference in speed, with lane 5 solid with other traffic. We desperately need more lorry overtaking bans in the UK, much like Germany operates.
I think, at least, any highway with 3 or more lanes should have overtaking bans on all but the 2 rightmost (leftmost in UK) lanes. And many flat sectors should have overtaking bans as well when they are busy with trucks.

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Since motorways have opened up work has become less locally sourced. For example, on a construction site the company doing the works will employ subcontractors based perhaps 100km away, even if there are some located 5km away. It probably comes down to money, but it results in congested roads. Fewer people live near where they work.
In part, yes, but that is positive: is has increased competition and drastically lowered prices of services...

Imagine when people depended mostly on mixed cargo trains to bring what they need and British Rail was a major "retailer" for many intermediate products because it had monopoly on transportation over railways...
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Old June 10th, 2012, 12:31 AM   #7382
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I was bored as hell today, so I decided to use Kaaiman's Combikaart and make a map that shows traffic volumes for the most important roads. I used data from the Dutch road wiki (obviously in Dutch...) (English page)

I did not distinguish non-highways and highways.

Here's the link to the original Combikaart so you can easily compare if you're not familiar with the Dutch highways.

I used traffic data that gives an average per day measured over the entire year. On working days you should add 5-10% and in months like April or October another 2-5%

Please don't pay too much attention to my Paint skills...


EDIT 1:45 Saw that I forgot 2 bits (1 black bit just south of Rotterdam and near my own house a light blue dot...) so I edited in Paint and posted new pic.

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Old June 10th, 2012, 12:35 AM   #7383
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Thanks for making this map. I'm very drunk at the moment so I will take a better look at the map tomorrow.
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Old June 10th, 2012, 12:51 AM   #7384
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I'm very drunk at the moment so I will take a better look at the map tomorrow.
You have no idea how hard I lol'd at that
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Old June 10th, 2012, 12:56 AM   #7385
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Excellent map!
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Old June 10th, 2012, 03:01 AM   #7386
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Old June 10th, 2012, 01:45 PM   #7387
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Just a short question, I was searching on the internet when the roadworks between Amersfoort en Utrecht on the highway A28 would be finished. Information that I found indicated that work should finish this summer (June / July / August).

Is that timeframe still correct? And will that solve the early morning traffic jam near interchange Hoevelaken?
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Old June 10th, 2012, 01:53 PM   #7388
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Definitely not. I think it won't be completed until mid-2013 at least. They need to replace some bridges around Amersfoort (the oldest part of the A28 motorway).
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Old June 11th, 2012, 11:21 AM   #7389
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A leaking water pipe in the N57 Dampoort Aquaduct in Middelburg.

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Old June 11th, 2012, 11:59 AM   #7390
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Oh for heaven's sake, it's brand new.
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Old June 11th, 2012, 04:51 PM   #7391
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A16 Hendrik-Ido-Ambacht

A couple of photos of the A16 motorway near the town of Hendrik-Ido-Ambacht, not far from both Dordrecht and Rotterdam. This section carries approximately 130.000 vehicles per day.















Photos by Wesso from the Dutch wegenforum
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Old June 11th, 2012, 04:55 PM   #7392
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A leaking water pipe in the N57 Dampoort Aquaduct in Middelburg.


New low cost approach for project management Seen that, done that...

But from other side, 2in1 Tunnel and wasstraat :P
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Old June 11th, 2012, 05:22 PM   #7393
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I made a new map with more categories (in stead of 50.000-100.000 and 100.000-200.000 it's now 50.000-75000, 75.000-100.000, 100.000-150.000 and 150.000-200.000). The map can be found in the original post further up the page

(Damn, that's a crapload of numbers )
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Old June 11th, 2012, 06:24 PM   #7394
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A leaking water pipe in the N57 Dampoort Aquaduct in Middelburg.

That would really freak me out seeing this when driving under a channel.
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Old June 11th, 2012, 06:27 PM   #7395
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That would really freak me out seeing this when driving under a channel.
If you see this you have to drive fast... very fast
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Old June 11th, 2012, 07:05 PM   #7396
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That would really freak me out seeing this when driving under a channel.
I would panic so badly if I saw it in another tunnel just outside of this town. I would kick the gas pedal straight through the car floor.
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Old June 11th, 2012, 07:25 PM   #7397
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A little bit of rain and at 18.20 there is still chaos on the roads:



Clearly shows that Rotterdam has the worst infra, the Ring need a massive upgrade or alternatives, and closing of a tunnel ( Maastunnel) causes chaos in the whole city center. No redundancy at all, any less than perfect conditions and traffic grinds to a halt in the whole area. Many local roads are way under capacity too especially to Hillegersberg.

Amesterdam with its widenings does significantly better.
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Old June 11th, 2012, 07:39 PM   #7398
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Near Rotterdam the widenings (A15) and new roads (A4, A24(delayed...) and A13-A16) still have to be opened: that'll reduce traffic congestion a lot! Near amsterdam some adjustments have already been opened (shoulder running A9, extra reversible lane A1 etc.).

BTW: are the parallel lanes of the A16 still closed due to roadworks? The Maastunnel is supposed to be closed until end of August, right? I guess that means chaos until the end of August...
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All these projects should fix most issues, the A16-A13 will decongest local roads too for providing a decent north-south link for Schiebroek&Hillegersberg with the Center and Rotterdam East.

And the A15 upgrade &A4 missing ling would provide a decent alternative to The Hague from south...

A24 should be built asap, stupid Wilders.

One problem remains though, Algeracorridor... No real plans for that.




No idea about the A16, it was closed yesterday in the north direction, haven't been on the road today...

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A little bit of rain and at 18.20 there is still chaos on the roads:

https://public.sn2.livefilestore.com...tom.jpg?psid=1

Clearly shows that Rotterdam has the worst infra, the Ring need a massive upgrade or alternatives, and closing of a tunnel ( Maastunnel) causes chaos in the whole city center. No redundancy at all, any less than perfect conditions and traffic grinds to a halt in the whole area. Many local roads are way under capacity too especially to Hillegersberg.

Amesterdam with its widenings does significantly better.
You're not wrong that Rotterdam's infrastructure could do with some upgrades, but tonight's picture is a little distorted because Rotterdam was hit by severe thunderstorms while the rest of the Randstad only had some rain.
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