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Old August 9th, 2012, 10:38 PM   #7861
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This is the N701 near the city of Almere.

This two-lane road with shoulders has a 100 km/h speed limit. Of course, 100 km/h is considered far too dangerous for Dutch drivers to handle. So what are they going to do? Remove the shoulders and reduce the speed limit to 80 km/h.

Was this road planned to be 4 lane or to be used as airstrip in war time? It's damn wide.
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Old August 9th, 2012, 10:39 PM   #7862
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The road is very wide because its also a dyke!
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Old August 9th, 2012, 10:51 PM   #7863
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Shoulders were sometimes added during 1960s as a parking strip for touristic purposes.
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Old August 10th, 2012, 03:24 AM   #7864
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Plus it's hardly wide, it's how provincial roads are built in Poland standard (with extra lanes on the side).

Duurzaam debiel strikes again, ruining another good road because it's not a ''through road'', imbeciles.

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Old August 10th, 2012, 03:39 AM   #7865
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The Dutch do have a habit of throwing their vehicles on the outside lane without looking. Very annoying. I use side mirrors only.
They also have the habit of throwing their caravans into my motorhome happened last year...
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Old August 10th, 2012, 12:05 PM   #7866
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The N701 is managed by the province (Flevoland), so there's no way she directly did it.
How much influence does a municipality have over these decisions?
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Close to no influence. The Flevoland province owns and maintains the road.
In that case I hope she uses that road everyday and that she's gonna hate it. It would be sweet revenge.
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Old August 11th, 2012, 12:23 PM   #7867
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Old August 11th, 2012, 12:54 PM   #7868
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Some photos I took yesterday in the Almere area.

1. Stichtse Brug. This bridge carries the A27 motorway. It was built as two separate bridges in 1983 and 1999.
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A27 Stichtse Brug-3 by Chriszwolle, on Flickr

2. View from the bridge.
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A27 Stichtse Brug-9 by Chriszwolle, on Flickr

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A27 Stichtse Brug-15 by Chriszwolle, on Flickr

4. A6/A27 interchange "knooppunt Almere".
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A6 knooppunt Almere-2 by Chriszwolle, on Flickr

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A6 knooppunt Almere-4 by Chriszwolle, on Flickr

6. Externally lit sign.
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A6 knooppunt Almere-7 by Chriszwolle, on Flickr

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A6 knooppunt Almere-8 by Chriszwolle, on Flickr

8. Begin of A27 south to Utrecht.
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A27 knooppunt Almere-1 by Chriszwolle, on Flickr

9. The northern terminus of the A27 motorway.
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A27 knooppunt Almere-3 by Chriszwolle, on Flickr

10. It's a turbine interchange, all connectors are 2-lane.
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A27 knooppunt Almere-6 by Chriszwolle, on Flickr

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A27 knooppunt Almere-9 by Chriszwolle, on Flickr

12. A6 near Lelystad.
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A6-1 by Chriszwolle, on Flickr

13. Jungle freeway.
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A6-4 by Chriszwolle, on Flickr

14. other direction: prairie freeway.
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A6-6 by Chriszwolle, on Flickr

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A6-7 by Chriszwolle, on Flickr

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A6-8 by Chriszwolle, on Flickr
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Old August 11th, 2012, 01:11 PM   #7869
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How I wish we had more of these:

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13. Jungle freeway.
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Instead of these:

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14. other direction: prairie freeway.
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I like it when you can't see the traffic on the opposite side, it's very calm that way. In other countries it's more frequent of course, particularly on motorways that run through mountainous terrain. There's one really great road in Italy near Genoa where I drove a few years ago, I think it was the A6. The other half of the motorway runs on the other side of mountains, you only see it a few moments.
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Old August 11th, 2012, 04:09 PM   #7870
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Old August 11th, 2012, 04:14 PM   #7871
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I have no business there
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Old August 11th, 2012, 05:21 PM   #7872
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Old August 11th, 2012, 05:47 PM   #7873
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8. Begin of A27 south to Utrecht.
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Jeez, that's a sick way to reduce lanes! I hate when I find those unnatural things...
What was wrong in letting the two leftmost lanes go straight and having the right one merging? There's plenty of space for a safe merge.
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Old August 11th, 2012, 06:09 PM   #7874
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Allemachtig, zelfs op 23" past het er nog niet op...
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Old August 11th, 2012, 06:11 PM   #7875
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Jeez, that's a sick way to reduce lanes! I hate when I find those unnatural things...
What was wrong in letting the two leftmost lanes go straight and having the right one merging? There's plenty of space for a safe merge.
This is actually better than when the right lane has to merge. That way truck traffic doesn't have to impede the traffic flow. Cars fit better into the next lane than trucks.
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Old August 11th, 2012, 06:13 PM   #7876
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Jeez, that's a sick way to reduce lanes! I hate when I find those unnatural things...
What was wrong in letting the two leftmost lanes go straight and having the right one merging? There's plenty of space for a safe merge.
Tapering is only allowed when merging into 3 lanes. After that the left lane will end. German way of merging with double merging on the right side is not allowed.
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Old August 11th, 2012, 06:44 PM   #7877
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By double right merge do you mean this?

In theory, vehicles on the center lane should slide to the right as soon as they have a free lane, thus leaving proper capacity for those on the leftmost lane to swap lane too, before the lane ends.
What worries me is that in real life truckers will probably do it, while car drivers on center lane will simply stick there...

I understand your point, but I wouldn't place a "left lane merge" in the same spot where new traffic comes from the right.
I'd put it before the junction (but that would reduce capacity) or a lot after it.
But this is just an opinion, I'm pretty sure there are a lot of studies about how to calculate better solutions.

In general I don't like when the faster lane has to merge, because merging implies reducing speed, and I don't feel safe when left side traffic travels slower than that on the right half of the road.
And I still find unnatural and somehow disturbing that way of reducing a lane; I mean, when you have to weave left-right-left, as to avoid an obstacle, while the alignment is perfectly straight.

Another spot like that (southbound lane)

Btw, I understand that all what I'm describing is exaggerated by the tele effect of the picture
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Old August 11th, 2012, 07:31 PM   #7878
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I like it when you can't see the traffic on the opposite side, it's very calm that way.
We tried that too but it requires a lot of maintenance. It blocks dazzling from vehicles on the opposite side of the highway. This is a great advantage at nighttime during the winter months.





The Dutch highways normally have reasonably wide medians to accommodate small hedgerows. In Ireland, the hedgerows were planted before the new system.

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Old August 11th, 2012, 08:07 PM   #7879
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Notice how many people have their lights on in the middle of the day in the summer while it's not mandatory.

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Old August 11th, 2012, 08:11 PM   #7880
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^Sheep effect; a driver sees a car with the lights running decides to do the same thing and this repeats indefinitely. :p
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