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Old February 18th, 2007, 04:55 PM   #61
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Ok....Bad memory then
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Old February 18th, 2007, 07:05 PM   #62
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I heard there is a chance for an A35 from Zwolle to Almelo. That would be good!
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Old February 19th, 2007, 05:58 PM   #63
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An extension of the A73 and A15 would help to relieve the traffic jams in the Arnhem - Nijmegen area. They have been talking about it for so many years.

I'm not very optimistic though! The NIMBY city council of Nijmegen does not want the extension of the A73. As for the A 15 there are no funds to pay for that project!
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Old February 19th, 2007, 07:03 PM   #64
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Well, leftism is a problem if you consider road-infrastructure. Specially in Nijmegen or Utrecht or Amsterdam, where the local government is not really cooperating to relief those cities worse traffic jams.
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Old February 19th, 2007, 07:08 PM   #65
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Another thing, you see often in The Netherlands, is that they use extremely narrow lanes on the motorway's left side, or they use the shoulder during rushhours as an extra lane.

I don't know about that. It certainly increases unsafety, since some motorways are so overcrowded, that the shoulder has to be used all day.
I just drove over the A28 through Zwolle, they have those extra lanes on the left side, which is only 2,5 meters wide, with a barrier immediatly next to it. Barely anyone tries that lane, unless you've got a small car.

They should widen roads with normal lanes. The initial costs are a bit higher, but exploitaition and maintenance costs more if you think of a time of 5 years. And a normal lane doesn't decrease traffic-safety.
So i hope, they step off these shoulderlanes, and build normal ones instead, they are generally only 90cm wider.

They've done that on the A12 near Arnhem. They first want to build such a lane on the shoulder, but it came out that that lane has to be used all day long, so the shoulder wouldn't be available to emergency vehicles etc, so they are planning to build a normal lane instead! Good news!
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Old February 20th, 2007, 12:44 AM   #66
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in quality we may have one of the best in the world, the most are even better than some in germany. but in quantity of lanes and speed it isnt enough. that is realy something I do not understand. why allways that ignorant 120 or 100 or even 80. **** off, it is 'snelweg', in english: speedway. why cant you drive in areas like the flevopolder or during the night times something faster. and that point makes it the worst in europe.
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Old February 20th, 2007, 01:11 AM   #67
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^ Switzerland is no better.
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Old March 4th, 2007, 03:47 PM   #68
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A pic of the A4 near Schiphol Airport.

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Old March 11th, 2007, 08:50 PM   #69
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For those who are interested, i made photo's of some Provincial roads in the Northeast.

N307 Swifterbant - Kampen 22km, 52 pics 25,6MB

N331 Zwolle - Emmeloord 39km, 84 pics, 41,9MB

N381 Emmen - Drachten 59km, 98 pics, 13,5 MB

N331, N377, N34 Zwolle - Hasselt - Coevorden - Emmen, 67km 140 pics, 18,4MB

see this subforum on the Dutch Motorway forum for more information.
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Old March 12th, 2007, 05:40 AM   #70
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Chris, I noticed some numbers on the traffic lights (e.g. 7.1, 7.2, 8.1). Do you know what they mean?



By the way, I really like those white stripes painted on the traffic light poles. Makes it more visible.
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Old March 12th, 2007, 04:16 PM   #71
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They mean a number, which they can be identified with. If some traffic light is broken or something, they can identify the one which is broken by the intersection and number. I don't know if it is used a lot, but you see it everywhere.
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Old March 19th, 2007, 10:01 PM   #72
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Numbers and meaning

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Due to my study Traffic Management I know what these mysterious numbers mean. They explain the direction. On a normal junction you have 12 directions. You start counting with '1' for the direction South to East. '2' for South to North. '3' for South to West. '4' for West to South and so on.
For the picture it means that direction '7' goes from North to West.
I hope you understand it as explaining it in Dutch is already difficult.
the '1' in 7.1 means that it is the main'light' 7.2 can be seen lower at the corner of the junction or somewhere else.

Believe me, when you know all about the system it gives you a different view of the junctions. There are much more things to explain about it but that is too much now.
Unfortunally direction 1 is not always from South to East as it depends on the council. But direction 1 is always turning left like direction 7 is also turning left.
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turning right of course..........
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Old March 19th, 2007, 11:29 PM   #74
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Ah alright, so if a traffic light is broken, they know what direction is disturbed.
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Old March 20th, 2007, 04:17 PM   #75
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Hmmmm....yes, but often all lights are broken instead of one. The reason to choose this system is proper management. Trafficlights are more then just colored lights as they need to create a safe situation and no congestion.
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Old April 13th, 2007, 12:04 PM   #76
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Here are some updates from the widening of the Motorway A2 near Utrecht






(photo's by PW100 from http://forum.autosnelwegen.nl)

the A35 around Almelo is also UC:





Bridge over the Twente canal:


(photo's by Taurus)

The A73 Venlo-Roermond is nearing completion, no recent photo's available.
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Old April 13th, 2007, 12:24 PM   #77
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You have very impressive motorways ...but too many traffic jams . I think your popolutioan is around 20 million people, how many cars are there in circulation?? thanks for the info...
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Old April 13th, 2007, 12:43 PM   #78
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You have very impressive motorways ...but too many traffic jams . I think your popolutioan is around 20 million people, how many cars are there in circulation?? thanks for the info...
There are around 16 million inhabitants, and 7 million cars in this country. But the amount of trucks is also huge, since we are a distribution country, the load of trucks on some motorways (A1, A12, A15, A16, A27, A28, A67, A76) is overwhelming.
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typical traffic jams on the A28 near Zwolle.
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Check the amount of trucks:
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this view is common along Dutch motorways towards Germany and Belgium.

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Old April 13th, 2007, 05:28 PM   #80
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Curious. As there are a lot of trucks, does anybody think of introducing toll at least for them (like in Germany)? I'm sure authorities would collect a lot of money to use them for highway improvements.
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