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Old August 24th, 2012, 05:50 PM   #7981
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the 4 is a detour route, with the new signs (NBA) being implemented these routes will most likely disappear.
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Old August 25th, 2012, 04:41 AM   #7982
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Local road that connects Marken to the continent.

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Old August 25th, 2012, 04:43 AM   #7983
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Old sign in Amsterdam (using y as substitute for ij).

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Old August 25th, 2012, 04:46 AM   #7984
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Annoying traffic restriction in Volendam. You can't get through the city with your car because of bollards

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Old August 25th, 2012, 04:54 PM   #7985
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I say demolish a large part of the centre of Volendam and build a few new expressways. Motorways would be better.
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Old August 25th, 2012, 05:37 PM   #7986
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I found some old pictures from a Holland Tour 2002

Makkum - Laaksum





Enkhuizen - Den Oever



Almere - Lelystad



Lelystad - Enkhuizen









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Old August 25th, 2012, 05:39 PM   #7987
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You've been in Makkum, have you been in Workum as well?
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Old August 25th, 2012, 05:44 PM   #7988
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You've been in Makkum, have you been in Workum as well?
I can┤t remember,that was 10 years ago but i have writen down this tour,if you say me where Workum exactly is i can have a look but i am sure i will not remember of any detail cause i drived so many tours,sometimes i dont remember where exactly i was last year

The route was : Zurich-Makkum-Workum-Stavoren-Oudermirdum-Lemmer-Friese Hoek-Rotterdamse Hoek-Urk-Lelystad Noord

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Old August 25th, 2012, 05:51 PM   #7989
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From Makkum follow the coastline south for about 12 km, and there is Workum. I am raised and have lived everywhere, but I consider Workum as my hometown. Even though I haven't been there in a long time. It's one of the most beautiful towns in the northern provinces.
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Old August 25th, 2012, 07:36 PM   #7990
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I say demolish a large part of the centre of Volendam and build a few new expressways. Motorways would be better.
No need for that, but no need for banning cars either.
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Old August 25th, 2012, 08:38 PM   #7991
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No need for that, but no need for banning cars either.
He was being sarcastic...

I agree with you, I dislike old towns&villages with car free zones/not designed for cars.
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Old August 25th, 2012, 09:08 PM   #7992
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However world follows another way... It's so nice to get off the car and walk a little bit and have coffee or beer in calm, vehicles free zone of the city/village. Just sit down, relax, look around and admire the old buildings, views, etc...
Do you know, researched was done that people from small cities and rural area they love their cars and they do everything to show their neighbors how wealthy they are by buying and own expensive, mostly big (suv or so) cars...
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Old August 25th, 2012, 09:26 PM   #7993
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Old August 25th, 2012, 09:54 PM   #7994
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He was being sarcastic...

I agree with you, I dislike old towns&villages with car free zones/not designed for cars.
Those medieval people were such boneheads not to anticipate your needs!
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Old August 25th, 2012, 09:55 PM   #7995
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It's so nice to get off the car and walk a little bit and have coffee or beer in calm, vehicles free zone of the city/village. Just sit down, relax, look around and admire the old buildings, views, etc...
However, too many people are lazy and want their car parked exactly in front of the spot where they have to be. And then they are upset beacause they seem to be not the only one. Somehow those people intend to forget that such villages do not have the space for all those cars.

Indeed, such villages are very nice for a good walk and people should be proud of the heritage of those old villages instead of complaining about a 5 minute walk.
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Old August 25th, 2012, 09:59 PM   #7996
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Those medieval people were such boneheads not to anticipate your needs!
You are right. Imaginable that people from centuries ago did not think about cars in these times.
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Old August 25th, 2012, 10:02 PM   #7997
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Actually pre-automobile roads already needed to be wider to accommodate horse carts. That is why the traditional grid network in U.S. cities and towns already had wide streets decades before the automobile was invented. Many of the wide boulevards in Paris were constructed before the 1900s.
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Old August 25th, 2012, 10:10 PM   #7998
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However, too many people are lazy and want their car parked exactly in front of the spot where they have to be. And then they are upset beacause they seem to be not the only one. Somehow those people intend to forget that such villages do not have the space for all those cars.

Indeed, such villages are very nice for a good walk and people should be proud of the heritage of those old villages instead of complaining about a 5 minute walk.
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Old August 25th, 2012, 11:02 PM   #7999
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The red number road is a national route, and the green number is a local route ?
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Old August 25th, 2012, 11:12 PM   #8000
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Red number is indeed a national route, green number is a European Route.
E25 runs from Hoek van Holland (near Rotterdam, The Netherlands) towards Palermo (Italy)

E30 runs from Cork (Ireland) to Omsk (Russia).
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