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Old December 29th, 2012, 08:27 AM   #8761
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That little stub is called A38 . And yes, they should.
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Old December 29th, 2012, 03:34 PM   #8762
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A silly question from mine. What is the average rush hour speed on a Dutch busy 1+1 expressway (grade separated). Is the traffic relatively free - flowing (ie with 80 speed limit you end up with average 70, say), or worse?
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Old December 29th, 2012, 03:47 PM   #8763
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A silly question from mine. What is the average rush hour speed on a Dutch busy 1+1 expressway (grade separated). Is the traffic relatively free - flowing (ie with 80 speed limit you end up with average 70, say), or worse?
Depends on the expressway, actually. They are all very flat, so at least there isn't the problem of heavy vehicles slowing down traffic. Some like N50 and N57 are more free-flowing in that they don't have much access points with significant traffic. Others are more unstable.
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Old December 29th, 2012, 04:18 PM   #8764
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Is this a Moscow suburb ?
Those neighborhoods are built in the 60's. A rapid growing population and the Second World War (construction backlog and destructions) asked for a efficient housing programs such as these. Many of those 60's appartments are torn down or will be torn down in the near future throughout the nation.
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Old December 29th, 2012, 07:20 PM   #8765
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AARGH, I've worked in an office in Krimpen temporarily for a year, I hated it, stupid Algeraburg and Algeraweg. Could have just as well cycled instead of using a car!
Why didn't you, instead of sitting in traffic jams for a year?
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Old December 29th, 2012, 07:37 PM   #8766
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The Algera Bridge has one of the highest I/C values of non-motorways in the Netherlands, I believe it's even higher than 1 (normally anything higher than 0.75 - 0.80 will be congested).

Although this area is physically part of the Rotterdam urban area, river crossings are relatively few and far between. Over 50 000 people live within 8 kilometers east of this bridge, but even traffic from Schoonhoven and Bergambacht in the polders east of Rotterdam are dependent on it due to the lack of alternate routes.
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Old December 29th, 2012, 07:53 PM   #8767
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I traveled the Algarabrug lots of times and it indeed a busy traffic location

Hi, I made a video of the Eilandbrug, hope you all like it!


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Old December 31st, 2012, 01:16 PM   #8768
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I have been to the Netherlands recently and experienced something weird there. I drove on road, which could only be described as a one in bad condition, that is really unusual for Holland.

Rondweg Oost, Steenbergen.
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Old December 31st, 2012, 01:17 PM   #8769
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Noord-Brabant province is known for having constructed quite some concrete roads in the 1960s/1970s. Some still remain.

In this case, a new motorway will open in 2015, and this road may even be demolished.
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Old December 31st, 2012, 03:50 PM   #8770
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I have been to the Netherlands recently and experienced something weird there. I drove on road, which could only be described as a one in bad condition, that is really unusual for Holland.

Rondweg Oost, Steenbergen.
Next time visit me, will you?
That's a few km from my house. This route will have practically no significance from 2015 when the A4 is opened, this is probably the reason why maintenance wasn't done on this road. Originally the highway was supposed to open next year, but delays...
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Old December 31st, 2012, 03:54 PM   #8771
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Old December 31st, 2012, 04:37 PM   #8772
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Old December 31st, 2012, 05:31 PM   #8773
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If it comes to using English (properly spelled) on Dutch signs I noticed a destination: Rotterdam The Hague Airport instead of Rotterdam Den Haag Vliegveld. I know English name sounds more international and might seem to be better recognised, however Dutch version is not worse at all if followed by airplane icon and, trust me, it would be clearly readable for non Dutch speakers.

I find using English names on road's signs or naming places of interests in English instead of in national languages kind of indigestible. The Hague sign does not look pretty in the Netherlands.
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Old December 31st, 2012, 05:37 PM   #8774
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Rotterdam The Hague Airport is the only official name of that airport since 2010.
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Old December 31st, 2012, 08:04 PM   #8775
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Old December 31st, 2012, 08:11 PM   #8776
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Noord-Brabant province is known for having constructed quite some concrete roads in the 1960s/1970s. Some still remain.

In this case, a new motorway will open in 2015, and this road may even be demolished.
Why demolishing it?

And has it been decided what will be the number of this motorway (so, where A4 and A29 will meet)?
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Old December 31st, 2012, 09:56 PM   #8777
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Why demolishing it?
The road will have practically no use and the viaduct in the road is not in very good condition.
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Old December 31st, 2012, 11:25 PM   #8778
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Some pics captured on Rotterdam ring road.

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Old January 1st, 2013, 01:32 PM   #8779
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Some pics captured on Rotterdam ring road.

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Old January 1st, 2013, 07:14 PM   #8780
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traffic congestion down by 40% in 2012

Traffic congestion was down by 40% in 2012, the largest decline ever recorded. At the same time the amount of kilometers traveled is at an all-time high. Traffic congestion levels are now down from 16 million kilometer minutes in 2007 to 9 million kmmin in 2012. The largest decline in 2012 was in the Amsterdam region, where traffic congestion declined by a spectacular 50%.

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