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Old March 1st, 2008, 11:09 PM   #881
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I still think they should build the A6 / A9 connection anyway. But they also have to widen the existing roads.
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Old March 1st, 2008, 11:24 PM   #882
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Yes, and I think the government will pick up the plans for A6/A9 again, whilst widening of the A9 "Gaasperdammerweg" to 2×4 or 2×5 is not possible without demolishing houses (which will of course give much more opposition than the Naardermeer)

@ Chris: will those 12 lanes than only be between the A6/A1 intersection and the A10? And what about the section between that and Amersfoort (if this is left in the 2×2 as it is now, it will be a major bottleneck, going from 2×7 to 2×2). Over there something happens too. But, still this is not possible without demolishing houses. Do you know anything about this? Or anyone else?
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Old March 1st, 2008, 11:25 PM   #883
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Edit: those arrows were meant for des post

@darulez: what the hell do you mean?
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Old March 1st, 2008, 11:32 PM   #884
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The A1 is already a major bottleneck. I spent an hour near Naarden multiple times in traffic jams, because the road narrows from 2x3 to 2x2 lanes. Better would be that the whole A1 from Muiderberg to Hoevelaken to be widened to 2x4 lanes, but that requires some serious out-of-the-box thinking, and also, spatial changes near Blaricum and Bussum.
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Old March 3rd, 2008, 05:40 AM   #885
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This is a pretty cool video of an 85 km drive in the Netherlands, very early in the morning:

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Old March 3rd, 2008, 01:35 PM   #886
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Nice video! I recognized the route Zoetermeer - Rotterdam - Breda - Etten-Leur. Some nice infrastructure there, especially A16.
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Old March 3rd, 2008, 02:19 PM   #887
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'Tunnelbak' A16 Breda and HSL zuid under construction.







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Old March 3rd, 2008, 02:28 PM   #888
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Nice video! I recognized the route Zoetermeer - Rotterdam - Breda - Etten-Leur. Some nice infrastructure there, especially A16.
He drives not to Etten leur but to Ulvenhout...
For some pictures of the tunnelbak you've seen on the video check above
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Old March 3rd, 2008, 03:38 PM   #889
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You're right. I was confused by the intercharges Galder and Princeville.
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Old March 3rd, 2008, 05:45 PM   #890
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I made a whole bunch of pics today, from the A28 Zwolle - Assen, N34 Gieten - Emmen and the A37-A28 Emmen - Zwolle. I'll upload them tonight.
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"tunnelbak" is not a real English word. I'm not sure about the translation, maybe something like "embedded open tunnel", it means a roadway that has been constructed below grade, but not a real tunnel.
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Old March 3rd, 2008, 07:27 PM   #892
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Bad weather today on the A37 motorway between Emmen and Hoogeveen, westbound

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Old March 3rd, 2008, 07:51 PM   #893
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"tunnelbak" is not a real English word. I'm not sure about the translation, maybe something like "embedded open tunnel", it means a roadway that has been constructed below grade, but not a real tunnel.
I think it's called a sunken road/motorway but I might be wrong.
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Old March 3rd, 2008, 09:09 PM   #894
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Time for some pics. For loading time sake, i decided to put them in my webalbum.

A28 Zwolle - Assen -> 71km, 69 photo's

The A28 is the main highway from the central parts of the Netherlands towards the North. It is the only motorway to pass by 4 provincial capitals. This journey goes from Zwolle, a city of 116.000 to Assen, a regional city, and capital of Drente province. The total route is 71 km.

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N34 Gieten - Emmen -> 40km, 60 photo's

The N34 is the main national road that is not a motorway in the province of Drente. It connects the largest municipality of Emmen with Groningen. Some parts are in the process of being reconstructed, especially near Gieten and Borger, where grade-seperated interchanges are constructed. The number of lanes will be limited to one per direction though.

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A37/A28 Emmen - Zwolle -> 65km, 68 photo's

The A37 is the second most important motorway in Drente, connecting Emmen to the national motorway network. This journey runs from Emmen, to Hoogeveen, onto the A28 to Zwolle, where we pass right through the city. There was some bad weather on the way, reducing the speed to 90km/h. We exit at exit Zwolle-Zuid (South).

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Nice pics, Chris!
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Old March 3rd, 2008, 11:12 PM   #898
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'Tunnelbak' A16 Breda and HSL zuid under construction.

4+4 lanes?
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What is this green stripe in the middle of the road on the N34 Chris?
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Old March 4th, 2008, 12:39 AM   #900
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Yeah, it is a pretty confusing and awkward marking considering that none of the Netherlands' neighbours have it. I think if it is green median and a broken side line then 60 km/h, and if it is green median and a solid side line then 80 km/h. Correct me if I am wrong.
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