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Old March 4th, 2008, 12:45 AM   #901
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4+4 lanes?
No it was only for a few time during the construction
Now it's ready they're 3+3 lanes.
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Old March 4th, 2008, 06:25 AM   #902
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Yeah, it is a pretty confusing and awkward marking considering that none of the Netherlands' neighbours have it. I think if it is green median and a broken side line then 60 km/h, and if it is green median and a solid side line then 80 km/h. Correct me if I am wrong.
the way i understood it meant that it was safe to travel at 100 km/h.

I was in the netherlands (stayed in nunspeet last august for 2 weeks, which is just a bit east of Zwolle, just off A28). Anyways, i was there last summer, and that's how it was explained to me.

You'd think it would be cheaper to post a sign than paint a green line.
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Old March 4th, 2008, 06:41 AM   #903
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You're more or less right. There was a post in this thread somewhere before on this topic, but here it is again as a reminder:



Very confusing indeed
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Old March 4th, 2008, 01:12 PM   #904
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You'd think it would be cheaper to post a sign than paint a green line.
It are our stupid politicians who think they can improve traffic safety with these markings.

The reason behind it: on 60km/h roads bycyclist - should - better be seen and drivers - should - slow down when there's a driver in front of them. Oh, and not to forget: those roads are mostly full with speed bumps and road narrowings (don't know the right word for it)
80 and 100 km/h: roads are optical narrowed (there used to be a single dash line in the middle, just as everywhere else in europe), so it - should - tempt drivers not to drive too fast.

That's the theory. Fact is that these things haven't improved anything at all. People now less obey the speed limit and the overtaking prohibition...

And about the speed limits, I've said it before: those are still not depending on the markings but on the signs. So outside city limits 80km/h, only 60km/h when it's signed (mostly with a 'zone-60' sign), only 100km/h when you passed a motorroad sign.

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Old March 4th, 2008, 04:02 PM   #905
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The road markings don't have any legal status. One should always follow the roadsigns.

Also, the road markings often do not apply to the right speed limit.
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Old March 4th, 2008, 04:03 PM   #906
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Also, i made some pics today from the A1-A28 from Amsterdam to Zwolle (120km). I'll upload them tonight.
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Old March 4th, 2008, 08:43 PM   #907
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A1 - A28 Amsterdam - Zwolle -> 110km, 154 photo's

The A1 is one of the busiest motorways, and faces heavy undercapacity. The road is the whole day very busy in both directions. This photojourney was taken between 13.15 and 14.30 hours. The A28 has some nice scenery, in the Veluwe wooded area.

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Old March 4th, 2008, 09:09 PM   #908
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Nice pics again, Chris. Strange there were no clouds on your pictures. When I was at school today, and looked north (when staring out of the window, which is the best thing to do at school) I saw very very dark clouds (around 2pm). On my way back from school (at 3pm) it was hailing and raining very hard in my town, just below Amsterdam. Haven't you had this storms?
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Old March 4th, 2008, 09:29 PM   #909
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I had some rain on the Lelystad - Enkhuizen dike, but it was wonderfully nice weather when i drove back from Amsterdam.
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Old March 4th, 2008, 09:31 PM   #910
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You lucky guy.......
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Old March 4th, 2008, 11:02 PM   #911
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That's a lot of traffic on the motorway. And it's not rush-hour, is it? I remember that Clarkson would always get stuck somewehere in the Netherlands in Top Gear
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Nope, it's around 1 pm.
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Old March 6th, 2008, 10:59 PM   #913
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Again you're full of nice photos, Chris. You sure drive a lot around your country.
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Old March 7th, 2008, 04:44 PM   #914
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Nice pictures Chris! Are you driving when you take those pics or does someone else drive?
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I drive myself, and take the pics. It's not too hard, but you have to know when it's too dangerous to do. (like in heavy traffic or inner city roads).
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Old March 7th, 2008, 05:46 PM   #916
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I drive myself, and take the pics. It's not too hard, but you have to know when it's too dangerous to do. (like in heavy traffic or inner city roads).
Oh dude it is Very dangerous , I did it before and almost crashed my mom's car

Very nice pics of Amsterdam-Zwolle stretch, I spent almost 30 mins to look at all pics Very high-quality highways of Holland... oops Netherlands

But why don't use Green sign for highway ? And I was a bit surprised on how deserted Netherlands is.. I only saw mostly forest and very few buildings along the highway-- isn;t Netherlands a densely populated Kingdom ? ( 17 million ppl squeezed into 36,000 sq km land area )

I also want to see the rest area of Dutch highways-- what kind of restaurants are available plus other facilities.. if you have any.
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Old March 7th, 2008, 05:51 PM   #917
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rest area's are usually not featuring much facilities, because the average Dutch driver is not very long on the motorway, nor is the Netherlands a huge transitcountry for drivers.

To be frank, i favor green signs too. But blue works fine too.

What you didn't see, is that i passed by so many cities and towns along this route. If you drive somewhere, you're passing by any population center each minute within a 3km radius on the motorway. Looks can be deceptive, you know
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Old March 7th, 2008, 11:10 PM   #918
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I also think Chris wasn't able to make lots of pictures while passing cities because there is much more traffic, so making pictures is much more dangerous......
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Old March 8th, 2008, 12:07 PM   #919
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Hej,

found those pics on a dutch thread... atfer the discussion over the lack of builtup areas

Here u are:

Big thanks to our fellowmember: Layziedogg: I bet he dont mind

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S.C Heerenveen


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Skyline Almere.


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Almere.


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A2 knooppunt oudenrijn.


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hotel Breukelen.


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highrise around Amsterdam Arena from A9.


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Zaltbommelbrug.


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A2 Den Bosch.


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knooppunt A16-A15 Rotterdam.


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Van Brienenoord-brug.


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Suburbia Rotterdam


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prins clausplein


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Zuid-as A4-A10.


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A10 west.

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A10.


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A10


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'The Shoe' on Zuid-as.


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Nice shots. The first three are from my hometown Zwolle I see that baby daily.
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