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Old July 7th, 2013, 08:33 PM   #9501
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They are following a new and unique process. The government sets a framework of requirements and wishes for the project (including things as landscaping, bridge design, unnecessary noise abatement, etc.) and the contractor that offers the most features within the available budget gets the job, and the EIS is designed based on that.

Lane count and interchange configuration is a non-negotiable demand, but the secondary design features are up for grabs. The budget is € 689 million from the national government and € 45 million from local governments to realize unnecessary (from a legal point of view) wishes.

This is the basic plan:
Are those wishes, features, awarded some points beforehand? And if it is not so how do they secure that the awarding is not skewed?

Anyway, with what kind of detail are those wishes, features defined by the government?

How do they deal with the timing of the process? If a tender starts before the actual realization is known (because it is unknown what features will be constructed) how do they get a permit for the construction, if they actually don't yet know how will the construction look like. How do they deal with a situation when the tender is finished and the features are not satisfactory for awarding a permit? (especially with other organizations taking part in the permit process, demanding additional features?)

Is this only for this project or is it a new setup? If it is a new general setup, was there a situation when all contractors would offer full spec? I guess, the next criteria is reducing the price right?
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Old July 10th, 2013, 01:02 PM   #9502
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N23 Alkmaar - Enkhuizen

The Council of State has dismissed all appeals against the upgrade of the "N23" between Heerhugowaard and Enkhuizen. Construction can now commence. The road will be improved, widened and upgraded to a partial expressway. The most important project is the upgrade of A7 - Hoogkarspel to a 2x2, grade-separated 100 km/h expressway.

It is one of the largest provincial road projects in the Netherlands.
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Old July 10th, 2013, 01:06 PM   #9503
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N381 Drachten - Appelscha

The first major contract was signed today in Friesland province to rebuild and widen the N381 provincial road to a 2x2, grade-separated, 100 km/h expressway between Drachten (A7) and Appelscha. The new road will partially follow the existing N381 by twinning, and partial a new greenfield alignment to bypass some villages. This contract consists of the N381 to the Nanningaweg on the northern side of Oosterwolde.

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Old July 10th, 2013, 02:35 PM   #9504
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The Council of State has dismissed all appeals against the upgrade of the "N23" between Heerhugowaard and Enkhuizen. Construction can now commence. The road will be improved, widened and upgraded to a partial expressway. The most important project is the upgrade of A7 - Hoogkarspel to a 2x2, grade-separated 100 km/h expressway.

It is one of the largest provincial road projects in the Netherlands.
This is such good news. Only a bit late. A bit of 25 years. I grew up there and even in the end of the '80s it was horrible.
Finally!!!
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Old July 10th, 2013, 07:02 PM   #9505
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Does anybody have the new information on N33 reconstruction progress between A7 and A28?
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Old July 10th, 2013, 07:57 PM   #9506
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They are currently mostly working outside traffic now on the second carriageway. I passed there in May and back then there were mostly unimpressive earthworks.
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Old July 11th, 2013, 04:27 PM   #9507
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N23 Dronten

The upgrade of the "N23" (provincial road N307) just got better and faster. Construction will be sped up by 3 years, and move forward from completion in 2020 to 2017. The municipality of Dronten is willing to pre-finance the project.

In addition, they will change the project scope, instead of trying to upgrade the existing road with parallel roads for slow traffic, the existing road becomes a parallel road, while a new alignment will be constructed next to it. It will feature 2x1 lanes with a median (much like N307 west of Dronten) with a space reservation for 2x2 lanes. The second lane will be constructed before 2040.

This dramatically improves the project, because the number of roundabouts and intersections goes down from 6 to 2. It will utilize the existing roundabouts on either side of Dronten, with space to convert them to interchanges before 2040.



It looks like provinces in the Netherlands have loads of money to spend on road infrastructure, but Flevoland province has not been as fortunate as the other provinces. It wasn't created until 1986 and had no bridge / water compensation for national infrastructure transferred to the province like other provinces do. As a result, Flevoland has to spend a larger share of its budget on maintenance than most other provinces. Combine that with the low population and tax base, there isn't much money left for capital improvement projects.
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It looks like provinces in the Netherlands have loads of money to spend on road infrastructure, but Flevoland province has not been as fortunate as the other provinces. It wasn't created until 1986 and had no bridge / water compensation for national infrastructure transferred to the province like other provinces do. As a result, Flevoland has to spend a larger share of its budget on maintenance than most other provinces. Combine that with the low population and tax base, there isn't much money left for capital improvement projects.
Flevoland is the poorest province. It's GDP (per capita) is bellow the EU average. It should be eligible for the EU funds. Its GDP is around 75 % of the Dutch GDP (per capita).

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Old July 11th, 2013, 07:42 PM   #9509
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I thought Almere was doing so well.
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Old July 11th, 2013, 08:10 PM   #9510
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Most money in Almere is earned in the Amsterdam region (Noord-Holland province), which make the statistics flawed. Groningen at the same time is shown as very rich due to the natural gas reserves, while it is in fact the poorest province with persistent high unemployment. Although one must also factor in the cost of living, housing in Groningen is substantially cheaper than in most other parts of the Netherlands (outside Groningen City).
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This EU everage is a joke too imo. You cannot compare a country like Luxembourg, with a GDP of like 50k , to a country like Bulgaria with a 8k GDP. I think each country should get their fair share and then the National government should decide over the distribution of this funds, to prevent the situation Chris discribed in for example Groningen.
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Old July 11th, 2013, 10:08 PM   #9512
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Most money in Almere is earned in the Amsterdam region (Noord-Holland province), which make the statistics flawed. Groningen at the same time is shown as very rich due to the natural gas reserves, while it is in fact the poorest province with persistent high unemployment. Although one must also factor in the cost of living, housing in Groningen is substantially cheaper than in most other parts of the Netherlands (outside Groningen City).
Well, Groningen gets its share from this high "gas" GDP. And all those earners in Almere get their salary in Amsterdam right, but they also produce the product of their work in Amsterdam, not in Almere. Thus you can see, that Flevoland needs the investments more in order to create more production possibilities.

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This EU everage is a joke too imo. You cannot compare a country like Luxembourg, with a GDP of like 50k , to a country like Bulgaria with a 8k GDP. I think each country should get their fair share and then the National government should decide over the distribution of this funds, to prevent the situation Chris discribed in for example Groningen.

Although the measure is not ideal, I think it gives very good proxy for the distribution of the funds. Mind you, those funds are meant for leveling out the economic development across the regions.

I can see multiple problems with a situation when the national government would be free to use those funds as it likes. Most probably the money would end up somewhere completely else. Or does Netherlands have a special investment program for relatively poorer regions?

Rather then that it would be more fair, if every country had to send less to Brussels and could use that funds as it likes. But. The funds we are talking about are so called cohesion funds, and the reason they exists is a solidarity of the richer regions with the poorer regions. Changing the system would imho destroy the whole point.
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Old July 12th, 2013, 08:39 AM   #9513
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Most money in Almere is earned in the Amsterdam region (Noord-Holland province), which make the statistics flawed. Groningen at the same time is shown as very rich due to the natural gas reserves, while it is in fact the poorest province with persistent high unemployment. Although one must also factor in the cost of living, housing in Groningen is substantially cheaper than in most other parts of the Netherlands (outside Groningen City).
True, but Flevoland has had the highest unemployement of the country on several moments the past few years surpassing Groningen in those surveys.
Maybe flawed those income figures, but Flevoland has its problems that wil have its effects on those figures aswell besides money earned elsewhere.
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Almere is essentially a bedroom community for other places (Hilversum and Amsterdam). It has the most affordable housing in the northern half of the Randstad.
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Basically an Amsterdam overflow.
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That is why this will be constructed next year (A1):
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Old July 12th, 2013, 07:48 PM   #9517
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What did they build in the middle?
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Old July 12th, 2013, 07:52 PM   #9518
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Well, they haven't built it yet, but those lanes in the middle are going to be reversible lanes. Lanes that will be used for the busiest direction during rush hours (towards Amsterdam in the morning and towards Almere in the evening). This gives the busiest direction 7 lanes!

There are already 2 reversible lanes at this location, you can see them in this video made by Chris
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A2 's-Hertogenbosch - Eindhoven

It looks like the third lane of A2 opened to traffic, southbound, around the town of Boxtel.

Here's a photo taken last week by koef, showing the third lane (actually the #1 lane) still closed.
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Old July 12th, 2013, 09:09 PM   #9520
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One thing I have been wondering about, with all these new/widened motorways etc (and big forecast increases in the traffic using them)...is urban congestion getting, or projected to get, a lot worse? Journeys don't start and end on motorways after all, and there's only so much you can do with urban roads. Thanks in advance for any info on this.
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