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Old March 17th, 2008, 10:21 PM   #941
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We have actually little over 2,300km of freeways. CIA should check their facts better, as usual.
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Old March 17th, 2008, 11:11 PM   #942
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Depends on their definition of expressways. Maybe they included autowegen?
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Old March 17th, 2008, 11:21 PM   #943
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Most "Autowegen" (Motor Roads) are only 2 lanes, just like an ordinary highway, but with restrictions to slow traffic and a higher speed limit. I cannot find a way to place those under "expressways", because they are far from that (with a few exceptions ofcourse).
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Old March 18th, 2008, 12:25 PM   #944
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We had 100 individual traffic jams at the same time this morning
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Old March 19th, 2008, 12:33 AM   #945
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Major improvements on the northern roads in the Netherlands in the upcoming years, a large fund became available because of the (thank god) cancelled HSR Zuiderzeelijn from Amsterdam to Groningen.

List of improvements:

-> A7 Groningen improvement on this non-motorway section € 624 mln
-> All roads towards Leeuwarden are gonna be improved € 222 mln
-> New exit near Assen, new train station, local improvements € 222 mln
-> N50 Zwolle - Emmeloord replacement of old bridge and widening to 2x2 lanes € 26 mln
-> Expanding railway Leeuwarden - Groningen € 120 mln
-> railway station Assen & Werpsterhoek € 43 mln
-> lightrail Groningen - Nieuweschans/Veendam € 32 mln
-> improving existing stations € 11 mln
-> fast buses € 20 mln
-> other mass transit improvements € 70 mln
-> N31 rebuilding to A31 with aqueduct in Harlingen € 200 mln
-> Central Axe (Dokkum Nijega highway) € 40 mln
-> converting roundabout Joure (A6-A7) into interchange € 100 mln
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Old March 19th, 2008, 10:17 AM   #946
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Some night shots of the A2 i made last night:

This bridge will make room for a new wider one:



Near Waardenburg:


The Martinus Nijhoff bridge crossing the Waal river at Zaltbommel






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Old March 19th, 2008, 10:56 PM   #947
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Nice pics. Do you work at night?
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Old March 20th, 2008, 12:44 AM   #948
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Nice pics!

Yesterday I drove from Vaduz in Liechtenstein back to Amsterdam. Took me about 8 hours, and considering rush hour in Germany and the Netherlands I think I took the right route.

Here's the route suggested by my satnav:

http://maps.google.nl/maps?f=d&hl=nl...305908&ie=UTF8

Since I left Vaduz at 11:00 I knew I would hit rush hour in the 'ruhr area' so instead I decided to drive from Vaduz to Zurich and Basel. Then went north into Germany and followed the A5 past Karlsruhe (some roadworks on that bit) to exit onto the A6 / A61. From Hockenheim I followed the A61 all the way to Venlo. No trafficjams at all From Venlo I followed the A73 and the A50, then instead of joining the jams between Nijmegen en Arnhem I took the A15 towards Tiel and took the A2 home. Last part of the A2 between Utrecht and Amsterdam was busy and jammed as usual but still I made it home around 19:00.

I can advice this route to anyone who's driving from Switzerland or Liechtenstein to the Netherlands on a week day. On saturday or sunday I would take the route suggested by Google Maps.
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Old March 20th, 2008, 12:54 AM   #949
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I still don't get it why you went from Vaduz to Karlsruhe over Basel instead of Ulm. There weren't rush hours by the time you reached Karlsruhe to be stuck by Stuttgart.
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Old March 20th, 2008, 11:32 AM   #950
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Stuttgart - Karlsruhe can be jammed at anytime during the day i heard.
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Old March 20th, 2008, 12:55 PM   #951
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Stuttgart - Karlsruhe can be jammed at anytime during the day i heard.
Yup apart from the fact I don't like the bits Ulm - Stuttgart and especially Stuttgart - Karlsruhe due to the roadworks and frequent traffic jams, there was another reason, I had to drop something off in Zurich.
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Old March 20th, 2008, 06:26 PM   #952
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How about this: 16.30 hr

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Old March 20th, 2008, 10:26 PM   #953
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The A59 west of Den Bosch in 2004: Concrete pavement. Rare, but not unique in the Netherlands.

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The A1 from the A35 to De Lutte (German border) is also made of concrete.
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Old March 20th, 2008, 10:33 PM   #955
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Also an unique feature, a motorway interchange with traffic lights. There are still a few of these in the Netherlands; Interchanges Julianaplein, Leenderheide, Hooipolder, Europaplein & Ekkersrijt. There is also an uncontrolled roundabout near Joure.

This is interchange Hooipolder A27 goes on top, freeflow, but the A59 has traffic lights.
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Old March 21st, 2008, 12:17 AM   #956
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A really long rushhour today. It just ended (10.15 pm).

Red: number of traffic jams
Yellow: accumulated length of traffic jams

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Peak at 6 pm? Isn't that a little late? How long do you guys work? Usual here is 8-16h.
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Old March 21st, 2008, 03:17 AM   #958
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Peak at 6 pm? Isn't that a little late? How long do you guys work? Usual here is 8-16h.
9 to 17h is regular working time but due to traffic jams some people work 10-18h or 8 - 16h also.

I left work at 18:45 today and still spend about one hour in traffic jams. Took me 1 hour and 45 minutes to get home instead of 45.
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Peak at 6 pm? Isn't that a little late? How long do you guys work? Usual here is 8-16h.
If everybody would do that here traffic jams would be at least twice as long, I think. Fortunately more and more people are getting flexible work schedules.
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Old March 21st, 2008, 02:01 PM   #960
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The downside of that is that rushhours have fewer traffic jams, but they last longer. The earliest jams start already around 6 am, while the last few commute traffic jams end at the end of the morning, though it's mostly clear around 10 am. It already starts between 2 and 3 pm, and usually last to after 7 pm.
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