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Old October 14th, 2013, 06:42 PM   #9941
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Will the Utrecht-Muiderberg Almere dissappear?
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Old October 14th, 2013, 06:54 PM   #9942
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That connector is only barely visible in the animation, but it certainly is there

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Old October 14th, 2013, 10:41 PM   #9943
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You used the wrong language here.
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Old October 14th, 2013, 10:43 PM   #9944
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Thanks. I thought I was in another thread
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Old October 14th, 2013, 11:35 PM   #9945
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Start Stops per year in cities

http://magnatec.castrol.com/campaign...art-index.html
http://www.at5.nl/artikelen/112840/a...r-in-amsterdam

Dramatic result from Amsterdam, where drivers have to stop their car 22320 times per year on average. Tomtom provided the data. This is much worse than in London, Sydney, New York, Warsaw, etc...
Amsterdam is a catastrophe to keep moving with a car!

Rotterdam did much better, with only 6120 stops. And even there I see pointless traffic lights every day.

This shows that as a driver, Amsterdam should be avoided at all costs, like a black hole on the map! Unless you are very, very patient and rich. Rotterdam might have worse motorways congestion wise, but at least traffic in the city itself is much better flowing.

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Old October 15th, 2013, 02:47 AM   #9946
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The guy who designed this hotel...



... also wrote this book

[Sorry, post-vacation catch-up on the country threads here]

And yet, if your current signature is to be believed, that hotel is by definition superior to, say, the Parthenon, Notre-Dame de Paris or the Empire State Building....
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Old October 15th, 2013, 02:52 AM   #9947
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A large amount of trees have been cut to make way for the A6 widening. This stretch of A6 will be widened from 4 to 8 lanes, using a local-express setup. Construction will begin next year. Most of the trees were planted in the late 1970s when this part of Flevoland was drained and developed. It used to be the bottom of the sea. The trees are cut before the breeding season starts next year.

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Random, off-topic, just-out-of-curiosity question: how shallow was the water that was drained - can polders be created in deep water?
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Old October 15th, 2013, 04:09 AM   #9948
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Random, off-topic, just-out-of-curiosity question: how shallow was the water that was drained - can polders be created in deep water?
The lowest point in Flevoland is -8m below sea level, I think.

To drain a polder, first you build the dykes/levees, then you pump water like crazy out of the enclosure while building permanent drainage canals and pump systems. You then wait for the surface to settle down, which takes up to 2 years (once the soil is dry it will subside somehow, in certain places that effect is larger so it sinks deeper).

The major problem creating a polder in deep water would be the amount of filling to be done there. The recent Maasvlakte 2 project is somehow like that: expanding the Port of Rotterdam outwards into the North Sea, but the reclaimed land is actually quite high, at the cost of immense dragging and filling operations. Theoretically they could build dykes, but since they are out in the ocean it is cheaper jsut to fill the whole thing up instead of exposing billions of euros on new infrastructure to the front defenses against the North Sea.
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Old October 15th, 2013, 12:39 PM   #9949
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I think the Maasvlakte 2 sits at +5 meters (so that's above sea level) on average. And yes, it took a shitload of sand to get there.
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Old October 15th, 2013, 02:39 PM   #9950
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It took considerable time before developments began after the polders became dry land. Southern Flevoland was the last part of the province to become dry land, in 1968. However, cultivation and urbanization didn't began until the second half of the 1970s, the first houses in Almere were built in 1976.
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Old October 15th, 2013, 02:45 PM   #9951
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The lowest point in Flevoland is -8m below sea level, I think.

To drain a polder, first you build the dykes/levees, then you pump water like crazy out of the enclosure while building permanent drainage canals and pump systems. You then wait for the surface to settle down, which takes up to 2 years (once the soil is dry it will subside somehow, in certain places that effect is larger so it sinks deeper).

The major problem creating a polder in deep water would be the amount of filling to be done there. The recent Maasvlakte 2 project is somehow like that: expanding the Port of Rotterdam outwards into the North Sea, but the reclaimed land is actually quite high, at the cost of immense dragging and filling operations. Theoretically they could build dykes, but since they are out in the ocean it is cheaper jsut to fill the whole thing up instead of exposing billions of euros on new infrastructure to the front defenses against the North Sea.
So if I'm understanding you correctly, it's actually the seabed that becomes dry land, thanks to dikes and draining?
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Old October 15th, 2013, 03:33 PM   #9952
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A7 + A8 Purmerend - Amsterdam

Procedures have been initiated to construct shoulder running along A7 and A8 between exit Purmerend-Zuid and exit Oostzaan (12 km).

There already is shoulder running in the opposite direction along A7 towards Purmerend (northbound / outbound).

Current layout of the motorways;

* A7 Purmerend-Zuid - Zaandam interchange: 2x2 (northbound shldr running)
* A8 Zaandam interchange - Oostzaan: 2x4

The existing northbound shoulder running will be extended south to the gas station near Oostzaan to improve traffic flow.

The cost is projected at € 25 million.

A long-term widening of A8 to 2x6 lanes has also been proposed (Zaandam interchange - Coenplein interchange).

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Old October 15th, 2013, 04:03 PM   #9953
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N201

According to local media, Utrecht province is considering widening a short stretch of the N201 provincial road to 2x2 lanes. It's only a short segment of 2 kilometers between N402 and A2, but it is a high volume road. N201 is currently a two-lane road with 25.000 vehicles per day at this location.

N201 has long been a problematic road. The motorway A80 was proposed to run along side it in the 1970s, but it hasn't been constructed except for the A27 interchange near Hilversum. All of N201 is a high-volume road with frequent congestion and no alternate routes for traffic between the towns and cities along the road.

Nearly all of N201 carries more than 20.000 vehicles per day, except for Uithoorn - Mijdrecht, which carries 16.000 vehicles per day. However, N201 in Aalsmeer carries over 40.000 vehicles per day and has been realigned recently.

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Old October 15th, 2013, 04:26 PM   #9954
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The original Brooklyn (Breukelen) is on that map.
(Seriously - that's where the name comes from. For that matter, there's a New Utrecht Avenue in Brooklyn....)
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And Harlem...
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Old October 15th, 2013, 04:44 PM   #9956
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Harlem's not in Brooklyn.
Neither is Hoboken (New Jersey or Province of Antwerp).

Eastern New York State, and bits of New Jersey, are chock full of Dutch or altered-Dutch place names. Can't find a good list on line though.
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Harlem's not in Brooklyn.
Neither is Hoboken (New Jersey or Province of Antwerp).

Eastern New York State, and bits of New Jersey, are chock full of Dutch or altered-Dutch place names. Can't find a good list on line though.
I know that. I've actually been in Harlem, at the time when the safest way to go there is to do guided bus tours. Even been in a Baptist Church there...
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Old October 15th, 2013, 04:47 PM   #9958
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Harlem = Haarlem
Wall Street = Walstraat
Broadway = Brede Weg
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Old October 15th, 2013, 04:54 PM   #9959
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There's a Broad Street in Birmingham (UK not Alabama)

I'm planning to go again in April. Hire a car and start in New York, and visit friends in Ravenna, NY, my aunt in Bergenfield, NJ, then to Virginia and visit a good friend who's also in Mayrhofen twice a year, and finally Hardinsburgh, KY as I got invited there to go hiking at the Red River Gorge. If I have time, I'll also do Indianapolis.

You know Michael, from NJ to VA I'm actually passing your neck of the woods. It'd be a great pleasure for you to discuss life and roads over a beverage of something...
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Of course!
Let me know privately when your dates are definite!
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