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Old October 30th, 2013, 01:13 PM   #10061
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N33 Noordbroek - Appingedam

Groningen province has some weird priorities to upgrade the road network. They want to twin the N33 north of A7 while projects to improve N360 and N361 have been cancelled. N33 carries only 9,000 - 9,500 vehicles per day, so twinning is not necessary. It's not a direct route from Delfzijl to Groningen and never will be. N360 is a much shorter route, but goes through several towns and carries 12,000 - 17,000 vehicles per day.

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Old October 30th, 2013, 04:16 PM   #10062
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Is there anything known about the dimensions or interchanges (freeflow?)?
What measures will be taken too discourage traffic from using the old road (which is more direct)?
I don't know the answer to your question, but this is a wrong question imho.

The question should be ''What measures will be taken to encourage traffic to use the new road''.

And the answer to that should be that the new road is faster and superior.


But at a guess, ''Duurzaam veilig'' will probably completely ruin another perfectly good road, bullying drivers to use the new road.
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Old October 30th, 2013, 07:38 PM   #10063
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Groningen province has some weird priorities to upgrade the road network. They want to twin the N33 north of A7 while projects to improve N360 and N361 have been cancelled. N33 carries only 9,000 - 9,500 vehicles per day, so twinning is not necessary. It's not a direct route from Delfzijl to Groningen and never will be. N360 is a much shorter route, but goes through several towns and carries 12,000 - 17,000 vehicles per day.
Perhaps it's because the N33 is a state road while the n360 is not?
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Old October 30th, 2013, 08:00 PM   #10064
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I don't know the answer to your question, but this is a wrong question imho.

The question should be ''What measures will be taken to encourage traffic to use the new road''.

And the answer to that should be that the new road is faster and superior.


But at a guess, ''Duurzaam veilig'' will probably completely ruin another perfectly good road, bullying drivers to use the new road.
One way or another, I know the situation around there, and in this case you want to discourage traffic to cross two town centers.
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Old October 30th, 2013, 09:03 PM   #10065
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Perhaps it's because the N33 is a state road while the n360 is not?
Yes, N33 is administered by the national government while the others are administered by Groningen province. However, Groningen province is willing to fund the expansion of N33 to 4 lanes. But it would be wiser for Groningen to invest in their own roads instead of funding other roads which don't need it.

I mean, I wouldn't object to widening N33 to a 2x2 expressway, because it's safer, but there are higher priorities in that area.
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Old October 31st, 2013, 11:39 AM   #10066
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Old Rijnbrug construction pics (on A50)


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Old October 31st, 2013, 11:43 AM   #10067
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And now Gallecopbrug construction pics from RWS

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Old October 31st, 2013, 05:20 PM   #10068
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A1 Apeldoorn - Hengelo

Minister of transportation Melanie Schultz and regional partners have signed an agreement about the widening of A1 between Apeldoorn-Zuid and Azelo interchange (A35) (Apeldoorn - Hengelo).

The plan is to widen A1 from Apeldoorn-Zuid to Beekbergen interchange to 2x3 lanes, from Beekbergen interchange to Deventer-Oost to 2x4 lanes, and 2x3 lanes from Deventer-Oost to the Azelo interchange. The 2x4 widening is along the outside of the roadway, the 2x3 widening is possible in the median.

The to-be-widened stretch is 53 kilometers long. Construction cost is € 403 million, or € 7.6 million per kilometer, which makes this one of the most cost-effective long-distance widenings in the Netherlands, chiefly due to the existing wide median of A1 east of Deventer. The IJssel River Bridge will not be widened or replaced, they will utilize the shoulder as a 4th lane.

Phase 1 is the widening of A1 between Twello and Deventer to 2x4 lanes and Deventer-Oost - Rijssen to 2x3 lanes. Construction will begin in 2017.

Phase 2 is the widening of A1 between Beekbergen and Twello to 2x4 lanes and from Rijssen to Azelo to 2x3 lanes. Construction will begin in 2024 because funding is not available prior to 2024.

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Old October 31st, 2013, 05:25 PM   #10069
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Minister of transportation Melanie Schultz and regional partners have signed an agreement about the widening of A1 between Apeldoorn-Zuid and Azelo interchange (A35) (Apeldoorn - Hengelo).

The plan is to widen A1 from Apeldoorn-Zuid to Beekbergen interchange to 2x3 lanes, from Beekbergen interchange to Deventer-Oost to 2x4 lanes, and 2x3 lanes from Deventer-Oost to the Azelo interchange. The 2x4 widening is along the outside of the roadway, the 2x3 widening is possible in the median.

The to-be-widened stretch is 53 kilometers long. Construction cost is € 403 million, or € 7.6 million per kilometer, which makes this one of the most cost-effective long-distance widenings in the Netherlands, chiefly due to the existing wide median of A1 east of Deventer. The IJssel River Bridge will not be widened or replaced, they will utilize the shoulder as a 4th lane.

Phase 1 is the widening of A1 between Twello and Deventer to 2x4 lanes and Deventer-Oost - Rijssen to 2x3 lanes. Construction will begin in 2017.

Phase 2 is the widening of A1 between Beekbergen and Twello to 2x4 lanes and from Rijssen to Azelo to 2x3 lanes. Construction will begin in 2024 because funding is not available prior to 2024.

What's the ADT of those stretches?
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Old October 31st, 2013, 05:32 PM   #10070
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60,000 - 110,000 vehicles per day. But a major issue is the high share of trucks, at 20 - 25% (that is 24,000 trucks per day at Deventer). It's a major hinterland route for trucking.
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Old October 31st, 2013, 06:40 PM   #10071
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Roermondseplein, Arnhem

A 1978 photo of the "Roermondseplein" in Arnhem. This bridge spans the Rhine River. The elevated structure into the city is a bus facility, it looks a bit different today, with a 1x2 trolley bus route with an overhead wires and a local route for mopeds and cyclists.

Although the bridge is right next to the historic city center, it also serves as a major local route, because it's the westernmost bridge to cross the river until the A50 bridge 10 kilometers downstream. It's a typical 1970s bridge (i.e. a boring flat plank).

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Old October 31st, 2013, 07:32 PM   #10072
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In the picture you can see parked cars under the roadway.

On streetview now I can see access to that area has been made impossible. Why have they done that ? Such a nice big tiled area is now going to waste while it could be used for parking ? Perfect location near the centre and near the Central station...
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Old November 1st, 2013, 12:15 PM   #10073
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Aerial photos Werpsterhoek A31/N31/A32

Construction of a new intersection at Leeuwarden picks up speed as the groundworks were mostly completed.





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Old November 1st, 2013, 01:18 PM   #10074
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Is that the famous one with the "red light" house beside it?
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Old November 1st, 2013, 03:46 PM   #10075
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A7/N33 Zuidbroek interchange

Recent aerial photo of the A7 / N33 cloverturbine under construction. It will open in a year.



edit: and an aerial photo of the A28/N33 interchange under construction at Assen-Zuid.
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Old November 2nd, 2013, 12:23 PM   #10076
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A13-A16, Rotterdam

According to several news media outlets, transportation minister Schultz has said in an interview with newspaper AD that tolls will not be levied on the to-be-constructed A13-A16 motorway link in Rotterdam. The reason is that there are too many toll-free alternatives that would make tolls rather useless on this route.

The A13-A16 is a 10 kilometer motorway connection that will allow traffic to travel from A13 to A16 without needing to use the overburdened A20 motorway (180,000 AADT on 2x3 lanes).

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Old November 2nd, 2013, 02:20 PM   #10077
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According to several news media outlets, transportation minister Schultz has said in an interview with newspaper AD that tolls will not be levied on the to-be-constructed A13-A16 motorway link in Rotterdam. The reason is that there are too many toll-free alternatives that would make tolls rather useless on this route.
Sense! If only they realised that with the M6 Toll around Birmingham.
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Old November 3rd, 2013, 10:23 PM   #10078
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Quite some severe weather today. Hail storms blanketed motorways in a winter-like setting and there are several reports of low-end tornadoes.

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Tolls

As reported before, transportation minister Schultz has decided not to go through with tolls at the new A13-A16 link at Rotterdam.

Studies have found out that a toll of € 1.18 (cars) and € 2.37 (trucks) (2013 price level) would cause a traffic reduction of 40,000 vehicles per day. This means the desired reduction of congestion on A13 and A20 cannot be achieved. The tolls will be scrapped from the plans. The plan was to collect € 254 million in tolls (about 25% of construction cost).

The remaining funding will come from a financial risk reserve from the infrastructure fund, which was made a few years ago due to inherent uncertainties about toll revenue.

The schedule for construction seems unchanged so far, which is good news, because this link is desperately needed to alleviate congestion in Rotterdam.
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Old November 4th, 2013, 05:50 PM   #10080
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In the picture you can see parked cars under the roadway.

On streetview now I can see access to that area has been made impossible. Why have they done that ? Such a nice big tiled area is now going to waste while it could be used for parking ? Perfect location near the centre and near the Central station...
That's kind of a funny story because the blue and white stripes you see were originally designed as a piece of art which are called 'the blue waves'. While most citizens share your opinion about this place being the perfect location for parking vehicles. The streetview images you saw must be taken prior to 2010 because that year this piece of art was reopened as a parking place. This much to the dismay of the artist
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