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Old November 11th, 2013, 07:00 PM   #10121
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Very similar, in concept and traffic volumes, to the Bergisch Gladbach roundabout:



(my picture, two months ago)

It too has a road running underground!
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Old November 11th, 2013, 09:49 PM   #10122
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It's a low volume railroad, also known as the Pon Line, which serves car importer Pon. There are no regular passenger services, so it will likely be a few trains per week or so. It's interesting though, as far as I am aware this is the first roundabout in the Netherlands with a railroad crossing.
I remember something about a tram track through a roundabout in Amsterdam where traffic had to give priority and it's officially classified as 'railroad crossing'.
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Old November 11th, 2013, 10:11 PM   #10123
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I remember something about a tram track through a roundabout in Amsterdam where traffic had to give priority and it's officially classified as 'railroad crossing'.
Yes, I remember that. I'm trying to think...


I know - it's on the junction of Weteringschans and Vijzelstraat. I don't if it's still there, I haven't been there for years, and they've also been building that new tunnel for the metro.
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Old November 11th, 2013, 11:04 PM   #10124
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A major local project is the widening of the "Amstellaan" in the city of Deventer. Amstellaan is part of the bypass for through traffic in Deventer. It was a bottleneck, because the adjacent segments had 2x2 lanes.

It has improved substantially with the construction of two bicycle tunnels, eliminating all bicycle traffic across the intersection. Also, free right turns have been constructed at all right turns, which is quite unusual in the Netherlands these days.

And way under used, there should be free right turns on any bigger intersections where there is the space, it will save traffic a lot of time!
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Old November 11th, 2013, 11:38 PM   #10125
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And way under used, there should be free right turns on any bigger intersections where there is the space, it will save traffic a lot of time!
Problem is this requires pedestrian and cycling crossings to go elsewhere. But I do agree it would be very useful to ease congestion.

One of the worst intersections in Amsterdam in my opinion is this one:

https://www.google.nl/maps/preview#!...8!3d52.3496448

Its dangerous especially for cyclists and pedestrians, congested on a daily basis and a mix of trams, buses, cars, scooters, cyclists and pedestrians without traffic lights.

They recently made the cycling lanes wider and made a turn lane for those cyclists continuing along the Amstelveenseweg south-bound which made it a little less dangerous but its still far from ok.

Best would be to design a new solution from scratch, preferably a normal intersection with the Bernard Kochstraat changed to one-way street (south-bound) and connecting to the East bound Cornelis Krusemanstraat only.

Quick fixes to the current situation could include making the Bernard Kochstraat a one-way street for cars (south-bound only) and creating a turbo-roundabout by letting traffic from the Cornelis Krusemanstraat westbound to Amstelveenseweg southbound use the tram tracks for a few meters. This should reduce the cues on the Krusemanstraat caused by traffic turning right towards the Zeilstraat. Also they should move the tram and bus stop 16/24 50 meters south wards to traffic approaching the roundabout has a clearer view of traffic coming from the left.
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Old November 12th, 2013, 06:21 AM   #10126
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I remember something about a tram track through a roundabout in Amsterdam where traffic had to give priority and it's officially classified as 'railroad crossing'.
This (?):
https://www.google.com/maps?q=52.374...num=1&t=h&z=18

It has red lights to stop motor and bicycle traffic when the tram comes through.
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Old November 12th, 2013, 04:44 PM   #10127
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New in the Netherlands: balises

Flevoland implements them
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Old November 12th, 2013, 07:24 PM   #10128
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What are they?

The only balises I know in the Netherlands are those




EDIT: sorry, the image didn't load so I didn't understand what we were talking about
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Old November 12th, 2013, 07:29 PM   #10129
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New in the Netherlands: balises

Flevoland implements them
French style? LOL

Hmmm, weren't they installed on Dutch roads? I don't remember...
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A6/A7 Joure Interchange

The final design of the Joure motorway interchange. Construction of 1 km of new alignment, a direct connector interchange and a new exit to Joure cost € 76 million.

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Old November 12th, 2013, 07:49 PM   #10131
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Hmmm, weren't they installed on Dutch roads? I don't remember...
We have these for corners (yellow part is optional)
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and these for straight areas in NL (they went a little too far here, I think they had some extra... )
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Old November 12th, 2013, 08:28 PM   #10132
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A28 Exit 33 Assen has been renamed to Assen-West. Many exits are renamed with the new signage system. Many exit names had not been updated since the motorway was first constructed. In this case, the city of Assen expanded west of the motorway, making the name Assen-West more appropriate. There are also Assen-Zuid (south) and Assen-Noord (north)

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Old November 12th, 2013, 11:06 PM   #10133
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New in the Netherlands: balises

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Do these have an advantage compared to the normal arrows?
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This (?):
https://www.google.com/maps?q=52.374...num=1&t=h&z=18

It has red lights to stop motor and bicycle traffic when the tram comes through.
Yeah I think that's the one.
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Old November 12th, 2013, 11:11 PM   #10134
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A28 Exit 33 Assen has been renamed to Assen-West. Many exits are renamed with the new signage system. Many exit names had not been updated since the motorway was first constructed. In this case, the city of Assen expanded west of the motorway, making the name Assen-West more appropriate. There are also Assen-Zuid (south) and Assen-Noord (north)

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Which is the new signage system? Those diagrams?
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Old November 12th, 2013, 11:22 PM   #10135
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Go ahead and compare:

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(the blue block on the bottom right becomes another right exit arrow when shoulder running is implemented)
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Old November 12th, 2013, 11:28 PM   #10136
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Hmmm, they have been "Germanised".

Hmmmm, not sure if I prefer the new design. I have the impression they lose lot of space in the bottom part just for the arrows diagrams and the road number box...

Maybe for complex exit and exchange layouts it can be useful, but in the 95% of cases it is not necessary that space for arrows...

Thanks!
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Old November 13th, 2013, 03:44 AM   #10137
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Maybe kind of a dumb question, but why is the cross brace so massive? Looks like it could have a roll-up gate in it.
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Hmm, I prefer the signage system..
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Old November 13th, 2013, 02:25 PM   #10139
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Maybe kind of a dumb question, but why is the cross brace so massive? Looks like it could have a roll-up gate in it.
It was a test, this cross brace is made of wood!
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Old November 13th, 2013, 02:37 PM   #10140
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Go ahead and compare:

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(the blue block on the bottom right becomes another right exit arrow when shoulder running is implemented)
Was it the old one?

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