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Old April 4th, 2014, 05:39 PM   #10621
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The Philip Morris tobacco plant in Bergen op Zoom will close at the end of 2014. Over 1,200 people will lose their jobs. The Philip Morris plant is located right next to the Zoomland motorway interchange (A4/58), with the loop being called the "Philip Morris curve".

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Old April 4th, 2014, 07:01 PM   #10622
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Remarkable place to lunch is the title of this photo. Probably it is; because tomorrow the first half of the new aquaduct 'margetha zelle' aquaduct is going to be submerged by the water that surrounds it.
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Old April 4th, 2014, 07:58 PM   #10623
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A dump truck destroyed one of the bat passages across N33 today. And there are signs in both directions to warn truckers to lower the trailer for this situation specifically.

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Old April 4th, 2014, 08:34 PM   #10624
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The Philip Morris tobacco plant in Bergen op Zoom will close at the end of 2014. Over 1,200 people will lose their jobs. The Philip Morris plant is located right next to the Zoomland motorway interchange (A4/58), with the loop being called the "Philip Morris curve".
I hope there will be a plant / company in the building that renames that curve soon.
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Old April 4th, 2014, 11:25 PM   #10625
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It is usually bad news when factories close, especially for older workers. However, cigarettes are an overall drain on society, there is no 'safe level' of smoking, and it costs people a lot in terms of health (which other non-smokers have to pay).

So, yeah, I'm not really sad this factory is closing. After lagging North America for years, youth smoking rates in Western Europe are fast declining, the smoking rate of Dutch university students of 2012 is 55% less than that of 1995.

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Old April 4th, 2014, 11:57 PM   #10626
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So, yeah, I'm not really sad this factory is closing.
Well, I am. Cause my dad lost his job...

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After lagging North America for years, youth smoking rates in Western Europe are fast declining, the smoking rate of Dutch university students of 2012 is 55% less than that of 1995.
Way over 50% of the production in the Bergen op Zoom plant wasn't even for Europe or America, it was for Japan. Like every single cigarette meant for Japan came from this factory.
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Old April 5th, 2014, 12:58 AM   #10627
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Japanese smoke like crazy, yet they live longest, maybe if you only smoke 1 or 2 pack cigarettes per day, you will die early, but if you smoke maybe 4 or 5 pack in the day, it will kill all the bacteria and you live forever
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Old April 5th, 2014, 01:09 AM   #10628
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I am already preparing youtube's clip of A67 and am wondering why exits numbering does not start from one on that motorway. Is it in any way related to Belgian A21 (E34) and possibly could have some connections with former E3 Europoean road? Did Benelux plan common junctions numbers for the European corridors within its borders?
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Old April 5th, 2014, 01:55 AM   #10629
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They linked the exit numbering up with exit numbering of the A2-numbering because the A2 and A67 join eachother at Eindhoven.
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Old April 5th, 2014, 03:47 PM   #10630
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The Netherlands has the best highway system in the world, no doubt
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Old April 5th, 2014, 04:20 PM   #10631
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A4 Steenbergen

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Old April 5th, 2014, 09:39 PM   #10632
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Interesting move on the signage of N33 near the (future) Zuidbroek motorway interchange, Bremen is signed. This is notable, because elsewhere they use Oldenburg as a focal point. Although they could replace the signage of Oldenburg on A7 with Bremen, this still leads to a discontinuation in Germany, where Bremen does not appear on the signs until the Leer motorway interchange (A28/A31). I do think Bremen is a better destination than Oldenburg though, Bremen is much larger and more important as a hub.

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Old April 5th, 2014, 09:55 PM   #10633
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We have a similar thing in Canada. In Montreal the signs of A-20 west are "Toronto" starting in downtown. But once cross into Ontario (Hwy 401), you don't see Toronto written on anything including distance signs for a few hundred km until Kingston, despite Kingston being 100 000 population and Toronto 1.8 M...
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Old April 6th, 2014, 12:01 AM   #10634
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^Toronto is 6 million people in the metro and 2.9 in the city municipality..
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Old April 6th, 2014, 12:47 AM   #10635
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It must have been a long time since I actually read the number on the "welcome to Toronto" signs then :p But it makes the eastern 401's silence on Toronto even more odd.

The one that is really surprising is Sauga, like 700k... it is one of the largest cities in Canada despite being... Mississauga.
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Old April 6th, 2014, 05:55 PM   #10636
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A67, full motorway.

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They linked the exit numbering up with exit numbering of the A2-numbering because the A2 and A67 join eachother at Eindhoven.
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Old April 6th, 2014, 06:02 PM   #10637
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Did you record that on a sunday? Because usually the entire A67 is filled with trucks.
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Old April 6th, 2014, 07:18 PM   #10638
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Saturday.
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Old April 6th, 2014, 08:19 PM   #10639
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How manny kilometars of motorways does Netherlands has ?
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Old April 6th, 2014, 09:59 PM   #10640
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2516 kilometers in total!
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