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Old April 25th, 2014, 01:28 PM   #10721
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The motorway is built with a cross slope to accomodate higher speeds in curves. The design is correct, but the drainage isn't. This has happened a few times before, but only in cases of extreme precipitation.
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Old April 25th, 2014, 02:11 PM   #10722
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N50 Island Bridge

An orange yacht in front of the N50 "Island Bridge" near Kampen, in preparation for King's Day tomorrow.

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Old April 25th, 2014, 06:24 PM   #10723
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Are trucks the safest per km driven?
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Old April 25th, 2014, 09:20 PM   #10724
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Intersection with a free right turn at all quadrants in Deventer (Amstellaan / N344). It's not a standard design feature in the Netherlands because there are often conflicts with cyclists. But they've constructed nice bike tunnels under this slightly raised intersection.

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Old April 26th, 2014, 12:46 AM   #10725
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Well, I drove to Amsterdam last week with my brother starting Basque Country. Netherlands has toll free motorways and I like this motorways. Sorry when I asked if motorways had cycle lanes, it's a bad question. Motorways in Netherlands are great, same as in Spain, or in Basque Country or in south in France. You have a good motorways and roads. Netherlands is a very developed country. I admire you. Your roads are in great condition. Perfect!!

My critique is about motorways in France. It is very expensive to drive from Spain/France frontier to France/Belgium frontier. I drove last week from Lille to Belgium toll free. But driving from Hendaye to Lille (Belgian frontier) is 160 euros.

I don't understand french politics. France is one of the richest countries in the world. So, Why it puts tolls in motorways?

People from Netherlands, you are lucky to use now in 2014 a toll free system of motorways.

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Old April 26th, 2014, 12:56 AM   #10726
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And don't forget les controles automatiques

Better to drive by Germany
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Old April 26th, 2014, 02:26 AM   #10727
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Germany is buggered with radars on their motorways. I got done twice in one day the other week: one in Germany near Freiburg and one in Switzerland near St Gallen. I already got the German one in the mail: 10€
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Old April 26th, 2014, 02:36 AM   #10728
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So even German speeding ticket, cheaper than French toll The worst of Germany still cheaper than best of France
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Old April 26th, 2014, 02:39 AM   #10729
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Well, I drove to Amsterdam last week with my brother starting Basque Country. Netherlands has toll free motorways and I like this motorways. Sorry when I asked if motorways had cycle lanes, it's a bad question. Motorways in Netherlands are great, same as in Spain, or in Basque Country or in south in France. You have a good motorways and roads. Netherlands is a very developed country. I admire you. Your roads are in great condition. Perfect!!

My critique is about motorways in France. It is very expensive to drive from Spain/France frontier to France/Belgium frontier. I drove last week from Lille to Belgium toll free. But driving from Hendaye to Lille (Belgian frontier) is 160 euros.

I don't understand french politics. France is one of the richest countries in the world. So, Why it puts tolls in motorways?

People from Netherlands, you are lucky to use now in 2014 a toll free system of motorways.
Assuming that you have taken the A10 all the way to Paris and A1 to Lille you could have saved yourself quite a bit of money without losing much extra time. From Bordeaux to Poitiers there is a free dual carriageway running practically parallel to the A10. And you also had the option coming of at Chartres and cut across via Rouen and Calais....
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Old April 26th, 2014, 02:46 AM   #10730
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Furthermore there is a trick for avoiding the toll on the new A63 in Les Landes.
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Old April 26th, 2014, 11:08 AM   #10731
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But driving from Hendaye to Lille (Belgian frontier) is 160 euros.
It sounds like you have a larger vehicle than a standard passenger car, because the tolls are about half that, or did you count both ways (I agree it's a lot of money though).
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Old April 26th, 2014, 11:19 AM   #10732
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Old April 26th, 2014, 06:09 PM   #10733
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I think it requires two tunnels, under de Oude Maas and Spui. Additionally, it would preferably require a replacement of the Haringvliet Bridge with a wider span. The current span is obsolete in terms of design standards.
The Haringvlietbrug should also be raised higher by at least 3 meters to minimise openings for mostly recreational traffic. And should be at least 2 x 3 lanes.

Further down the road the current A4 near Bergen op Zoom wil become very stressed after the A4-South between Dinteloord and Halsteren will be opened.

So the plans of the 6 provinces in The Netherlands and Belgium should aim for an increase of the capacity at the current and the to be expected bottlenecks.
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Old April 27th, 2014, 12:44 AM   #10734
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Everyone loves NL. It's like Australia for some reason, just so much love
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Old April 27th, 2014, 01:38 AM   #10735
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Intersection with a free right turn at all quadrants in Deventer (Amstellaan / N344). It's not a standard design feature in the Netherlands because there are often conflicts with cyclists. But they've constructed nice bike tunnels under this slightly raised intersection.

Very very often there aren't though, I don't understand this is not a standard design for any intersection without conflicting cycle paths or sidewalks.

This should be applied to any intersection without cyclists, same with T intersections for going ''straight''.

There should be thousands of these types of intersections, but no, pesky traffic lights to turn right, and more often waiting for nothing at all at a red light than being able to continue without stopping .
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Old April 27th, 2014, 01:57 AM   #10736
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In Montreal they have actually closed up several such intersections for that "cyclist and pedestrian" reason, even though they had zebra crossings there... even though the design itself works really well. But also the "right on red" is not allowed here, and it is an obvious (and free!) solution...
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Old April 27th, 2014, 12:44 PM   #10737
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Intersection with a free right turn at all quadrants in Deventer (Amstellaan / N344). It's not a standard design feature in the Netherlands because there are often conflicts with cyclists. But they've constructed nice bike tunnels under this slightly raised intersection.
They are regular in Delft though, with cyclist and pedestrian crossings
For example:

https://www.google.nl/maps/search/vr...b05ca3c54bd43d

and

https://www.google.nl/maps/@52.00168...JaxUyHYlbQ!2e0
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Old April 27th, 2014, 01:09 PM   #10738
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are there in NL level crossings (railroad) in inhabited areas? i have noticed that NL is one of rare (maybe the only) countries where bells on level crossings ring all the time when barriers are down, not only when they are setting down. and those bells are extremely noise, probably the noisest in Europe.
i would go mad if i lived beside one.
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Old April 27th, 2014, 01:33 PM   #10739
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Hmm you get used to it, but to answer your question, yes, all over the place!

Although they are getting fewer in number, they are still widespread, for example my parents hometown (60.000 people) has 12 level crossings in this 7,5 km stretch with 2 station crossings, 4 main roads and 1 Cycle Street and the remainder regular city street crossings. The Blue arrow is a former crossing.

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Old April 27th, 2014, 01:41 PM   #10740
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Zwolle might be notable, there are railroads in 6 directions (8 if you count train services which split off outside Zwolle), but there are only 4 level crossings in the urban area.
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