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Old November 2nd, 2014, 10:54 PM   #11681
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It is actually prepared for electrification. I believe that I read that when the line will be up for tender (it's not part of the Hoofdrailnet) it will be mandatory to have asneltrein Zwolle-Enschedebesides the local train.
I was actually thinking about Amsterdam - Enschede/Berlin 200 km/h trains via Hanzelijn and Zwolle, just a bit hardcore compared to the current situation of Nijverdal
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Old November 3rd, 2014, 07:44 PM   #11682
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A study by the 'Kennisinstituut Mobiliteit' (Netherlands Institute for Transport Policy Analysis) shows that the massive motorway expansion projects in the Netherlands resulted in limited 'induced demand'.

Use of the main road network increased by 16% from 2000 to 2012. Of this increase, it is estimated that approximately one-eighth (2%) was a consequence of the extra car use that was evoked by the completed road expansions during that same period.

At locations where road capacity was expanded due to previous congestion problems, there were during peak hours often sharp increases in traffic volumes. This primarily concerns existing traffic that, due to congestion, had previously opted to travel via other routes or avoided peak hour travel. Moreover, the road expansion also evoked totally new car use, because, for example, car passenger became car driver or because car drivers travel to destinations situated further away. This effect is however relatively limited.
http://kimnet.nl/en/publication/late...d-road-traffic
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Old November 4th, 2014, 09:23 AM   #11683
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It's just a single track non electrified line carrying some local dieseltrains between Zwolle and Almelo.
It's not 'just a single track non electrified line', it's actually part of the hoofdrailnet (HRN: main rail network).

Just for the idea:
Passenger count per day in 2007:
Leeuwarden - Groningen: 13.293
Zwolle - Wierden (- Enschede): 18.154
Nijmegen - Roermond: 18.076

There are actual plans to electrify this line. The study also includes numbers on rerouting Amsterdam-Enschede/Berlin Intercities over this line. (estimates: [email protected] speeds, up to [email protected]/h on the Hanzelijn)
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Old November 4th, 2014, 12:31 PM   #11684
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Glad to hear my idea was not completely idiotic
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Old November 4th, 2014, 12:44 PM   #11685
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A study by the 'Kennisinstituut Mobiliteit' (Netherlands Institute for Transport Policy Analysis) shows that the massive motorway expansion projects in the Netherlands resulted in limited 'induced demand'.

Use of the main road network increased by 16% from 2000 to 2012. Of this increase, it is estimated that approximately one-eighth (2%) was a consequence of the extra car use that was evoked by the completed road expansions during that same period.

At locations where road capacity was expanded due to previous congestion problems, there were during peak hours often sharp increases in traffic volumes. This primarily concerns existing traffic that, due to congestion, had previously opted to travel via other routes or avoided peak hour travel. Moreover, the road expansion also evoked totally new car use, because, for example, car passenger became car driver or because car drivers travel to destinations situated further away. This effect is however relatively limited.
http://kimnet.nl/en/publication/late...d-road-traffic
Take the "limited" out of your sentence and you could make a nice headline for a news article.
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Old November 4th, 2014, 04:27 PM   #11686
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N257

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Old November 4th, 2014, 04:58 PM   #11687
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The Krammer Locks are (or at least were when they were built in the late '70s) unique: they're massively complicated because they cannot allow the fresh water on the one side to mix with the salt water on the other (or vice versa). It's an engineering feat of the highest order and their construction resulted in the natural emergence of salt marshes and new wildlife on the Western side.
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Old November 4th, 2014, 05:08 PM   #11688
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N257 will become more attractive once A4 is opened and traffic from East doesn't have to cross clogged Steenbergen streets.

I also wonder whether any progress can be expected on a southern extension of nearby N656 to N659 providing an expressway route beteween these two points
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Old November 4th, 2014, 05:41 PM   #11689
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Uhm, to what means and purpose?

I'm also not sure I got the meaning of your first part.
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Old November 4th, 2014, 06:15 PM   #11690
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About that first part: traffic form the Goerree-Overflakkee Island and the Bruinisse/Nieuwerkerk region will use the N257 and A4 to get to Bergen op Zoom and Antwerpen.
At this moment traffic will have to pass through Steenbergen to get to the N259. Because the A4 is build west of Steenbergen, that won't be neccesary in the future. Therefore traffic will move from the N59 and the N256 towards the N257.
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Old November 4th, 2014, 07:28 PM   #11691
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The left lane of A28 in Zwolle is a dynamic lane (plusstrook) that opens during rush hour to provide a third lane. However, the electronics malfunctioned. The result: 18 kilometers of traffic jam, while it is usually free-flow through Zwolle due to the dynamic lane. An additional lane can make a huge difference.

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Old November 4th, 2014, 11:49 PM   #11692
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It's not 'just a single track non electrified line', it's actually part of the hoofdrailnet (HRN: main rail network).

Just for the idea:
Passenger count per day in 2007:
Leeuwarden - Groningen: 13.293
Zwolle - Wierden (- Enschede): 18.154
Nijmegen - Roermond: 18.076

There are actual plans to electrify this line. The study also includes numbers on rerouting Amsterdam-Enschede/Berlin Intercities over this line. (estimates: [email protected] speeds, up to [email protected]/h on the Hanzelijn)
It's just a far away diesel line. And the passenger counts are really not enough to invest in electrification. It's not much more than let's say the N286 near Tholen or some other 3 digit N-road. Just as you wouldn't upgrade that road to a motorway with that amount of vehicles, it would be totally insane to upgrade a secundairy railroad carrying the same amount of people.
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Old November 5th, 2014, 08:57 AM   #11693
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One of the major reasons electrification does make sense is the fact that trains are not allowed to run on low-tax diesel ('rode diesel') any more. Also electric trains allow for shorter journey times and allow the line to be used for purposes it isn't used for. A more direct Zwolle-Enschede train is greatly missed for instance.

The problem is that the actual passenger numbers on the Zwolle-Almelo axis are a bit skewed. Car traffic is skewed because Nijverdal is still a soon to be solved major obstacle and people choose to use A1-A50 or a route over the N36 instead. Same goes for travel by train. In some cases a trip via Deventer or Marienberg is just as quick.
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The left lane of A28 in Zwolle is a dynamic lane (plusstrook) that opens during rush hour to provide a third lane. However, the electronics malfunctioned. The result: 18 kilometers of traffic jam, while it is usually free-flow through Zwolle due to the dynamic lane. An additional lane can make a huge difference.
I was gonna ask today. Saw a huge traffic jam from the railway bridge yesterday, all the way to Hattem on that provincial road.
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Old November 7th, 2014, 12:41 PM   #11696
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I hated that place, as Den Bosch is one of the cities with a DMV. It used to be a test-buster.

It's also one of the few place where you seem to drive on the left.
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Old November 7th, 2014, 03:29 PM   #11697
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N33 Assen - Noordbroek

Loads of aerial photos of completed N33 after widening to 2x2 lanes.

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Old November 9th, 2014, 08:27 PM   #11699
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N61 Terneuzen - Schoondijke

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Breda International Airport (formerly known as Seppe Airfield) is shortened to Breda Airport on the new signs.

I didn't even know this 'airport' existed. It's a small general aviation airfield with a paved runway, unsuitable for jet airplanes.

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