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Old January 16th, 2015, 10:09 AM   #12021
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That's not a missing link.
The missing link is A4 Beneluxplein - Klaaswaal (former rw19), for through-traffic Den Haag - Belgium.

Within the city of Rotterdam the Kleinpolderplein and Vaanplein interchanges are connected bij 2x2 urban roads and the Maastunnel.
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Old January 16th, 2015, 11:04 AM   #12022
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Therefore I think a motorway Den Haag-Naaldwijk-Oostvoorne-Stellendam-Burgh Haamstede-Veere-Arnemuiden-Terneuzen-Zelzate-Gent would be a good idea. It would bypass Rotterdam and Antwerp for going through trafic, and it would drasticly shorten traveling times in the south-west.
That's a really fantastically bad idea.

Never mind that you'd be running a motorway through a tourist area that's only really popular because it's quiet (nobody goes there for the weather), but none of the flood defenses (least of all the Pijlerdam) were built to handle traffic flows of that magnitude. What you're effectively proposing there is to rebuild all the Delta Works. And for what? So you don't have to look at Rotterdam's skyline when you're going from The Hague to frigging Gent? Who even makes that journey?

How many billions of euros are you contributing?
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Old January 16th, 2015, 11:38 AM   #12023
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I think you would save more time by expanding the R1/R2 in Antwerps then by adding that motorway! And with both the A4/A16 soon to be working side by side, you will have a redundant network well covering the demand/capacity!
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Old January 16th, 2015, 02:27 PM   #12024
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That's not a missing link.
The missing link is A4 Beneluxplein - Klaaswaal (former rw19), for through-traffic Den Haag - Belgium.

Within the city of Rotterdam the Kleinpolderplein and Vaanplein interchanges are connected bij 2x2 urban roads and the Maastunnel.
I was joking. :-)
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Old January 16th, 2015, 04:11 PM   #12025
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N913, Garyp

A new 100 km/h road opens to traffic in Frysln Province today. It runs from N31 to Burgum. It is the first completed segment of the 'Central Axis' project that builds a four-lane highway from Dokkum to N31.



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Old January 16th, 2015, 04:55 PM   #12026
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I wonder why do they still build green median roads. Give it 30 cm more and you can stick plastic bollards.

Other than N57, is there any 1+1 road left in Netherlands with green median (100km/h) and dashed lines (overtaking allowed)?
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Old January 16th, 2015, 04:57 PM   #12027
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They are still somewhat common in the north.

And Flevoland:

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Old January 16th, 2015, 05:01 PM   #12028
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Other than N57, is there any 1+1 road left in Netherlands with green median (100km/h) and dashed lines (overtaking allowed)?
Have you forgotten the dashed lines on the N257 when you visited the Krammer locks?
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Old January 16th, 2015, 05:03 PM   #12029
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Have you forgotten the dashed lines on the N257 when you visited the Krammer locks?
Probably.
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Old January 16th, 2015, 09:10 PM   #12030
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That's a really fantastically bad idea.

Never mind that you'd be running a motorway through a tourist area that's only really popular because it's quiet (nobody goes there for the weather), but none of the flood defenses (least of all the Pijlerdam) were built to handle traffic flows of that magnitude. What you're effectively proposing there is to rebuild all the Delta Works. And for what? So you don't have to look at Rotterdam's skyline when you're going from The Hague to frigging Gent? Who even makes that journey?

How many billions of euros are you contributing?
The N57 does have space reservation for 4 lanes, but than you will need more space for the parallel roads.
Currently, on the Delta works at Neeltje Jans, are two lanes in use as parallel road.
But I don't think that there ever will come highway A57.
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Old January 17th, 2015, 01:02 AM   #12031
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I just saw this:https://www.google.rs/maps/@51.98467...0100901T000000
Hard shoulder looks too wide,so is this section widened to 2x3 or not?
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Old January 17th, 2015, 02:23 AM   #12032
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With the completion of the Middelburg bypass couple years ago, the most pressing need on N57 is to build a proper expressway around Burg and Serooskerke, which is the only low-grade sector of N57 left.

Now something 5 years living here still hasn't got in my mind is why have the Dutch, especially in places like Zeeland, without space constraints, opted for so tight roundabouts. There is absolutely no need for that. They could have build much wider roundabouts in rural areas, and even stick a wind turbine in the middle of each one of them They could call it molenrotonde and paint the wind turbines in different colors, use LED patterns to create "mood lighting" on the pole and whatnot
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Old January 17th, 2015, 11:27 AM   #12033
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N62 Westerschelde Tunnel

2014 was the first time in history over 6 million vehicles traveled through the 6.6 kilometer long Westerschelde Tunnel in Zeeland province. 6,101,886 vehicles traveled through the tunnel, a growth of 4%.

The average annual daily volume is 16,717 vehicles. The busiest day of the year was the Friday before pentecost when 23,730 vehicles traveled through the tunnel.

Passenger car growth was 2.5%. Growth was stronger with heavy vehicles. T-tag usage is 67.8%. There are 52,576 T-tag subscribers, and 76,553 T-tags in circulation. They have several 'toll-free Saturdays', six in total in 2014. They were introduced in 2012.

The tunnel was available uninterrupted for 98.3% of the time. Unplanned closures were the result of breakdowns (41%) and accidents (14%). There were no fatal accidents in the tunnel.
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Old January 17th, 2015, 06:40 PM   #12034
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Old January 17th, 2015, 08:45 PM   #12035
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I just saw this:https://www.google.rs/maps/@51.98467...0100901T000000
Hard shoulder looks too wide,so is this section widened to 2x3 or not?
It isn't in the moment, but it is a reservervation for both an extra lane and an incoming lane. At the moment it isn't beng used because the motorway starts at exit 14, so no incoming lane is needed. When the A4 missing gap is completed, there will be 2x2 + incoming/exit lane (depending on direction). Because traffic prognoses of this stretch after the completion is 100 000 vehicles per day, it will probably be jammed from the opening, so 2x3 is required.
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Old January 18th, 2015, 10:42 AM   #12036
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I wonder why do they still build green median roads. Give it 30 cm more and you can stick plastic bollards.

Other than N57, is there any 1+1 road left in Netherlands with green median (100km/h) and dashed lines (overtaking allowed)?
Please, be glad that most of these roads are still saved from things like bollards or physical green medians. Road lay-outs like this are things that we should really be ashamed of.

Also, solid lines should also only be used when there are serious safety issues, like sharp curves, concealed entrances, blind hills etc. Not on roads like this.
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Old January 18th, 2015, 05:55 PM   #12037
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Please, be glad that most of these roads are still saved from things like bollards or physical green medians. Road lay-outs like this are things that we should really be ashamed of.
Who built this?
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Old January 18th, 2015, 08:37 PM   #12038
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haha, it looks like they cut the road in half, and then put one half on the wrong side
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Old January 18th, 2015, 08:53 PM   #12039
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Junction De Hogt (A67/A2 Eindhoven) looking towards the exit HTC Eindhoven today. Picture made by me

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Old January 19th, 2015, 12:09 AM   #12040
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Please, be glad that most of these roads are still saved from things like bollards or physical green medians. Road lay-outs like this are things that we should really be ashamed of.
Agreed.

Though, what a great private lane for people with cars capable of offroading . What a dirty hidden obstacle here though : http://goo.gl/maps/9LvIl
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