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Old December 12th, 2015, 05:19 PM   #13001
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That seems very doubtful considering the image of Italy in the Netherlands. More likely your application just crossed the desk of a particularly nasty civil servant with a small *****. Bad luck, mate. Can happen to anyone.
Well, they at least know that Italy is a country, and where it is, including that it is in the EU.

Which is too much to expect in the case of CZ, too small, too irrelevant . Actually, when you say Prague, you will get much higher success rate. I guess they should put it on forms as well. .
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Old December 12th, 2015, 07:26 PM   #13002
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My Czech driver's license was nearing the expiration date, so I asked for the renewal. As I live in the Netherlands, I should get the Dutch driver's license.

I went to the city hall, filled the form, paid the money, gave them the photo etc..

Now, I got a letter from the Dutch driver's license authority institution, that I need to send them another form with an Statement of Health to get af Certification of Fitness and pay another 8 Euro for this form.

What a nonsense, clearly against the EU rules, the Dutch don't have to do it, so neither do I. The question is whether this is a problem by design, or the authority just ignores the law in general, or made a mistake in my case. It would not be the first case that I run into something like that in the Netherlands.

I am without my license already a week, I had to give it in, and I see that this will make it all take extra time. I hope that it will resolve before Christmas.
Out of curiosity, are you a Czech citizen? If so, could you have gotten a Czech license even though you're living outside the country, or do you have to get a Dutch one?
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Old December 12th, 2015, 07:48 PM   #13003
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Out of curiosity, are you a Czech citizen? If so, could you have gotten a Czech license even though you're living outside the country, or do you have to get a Dutch one?
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Old December 12th, 2015, 11:05 PM   #13004
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A4 Delft - Schiedam

Some photos of the A4 Delft - Schiedam open day:

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Vandaag was er een open dag bij de A4, helaas was het weer een stuk slechter dan de vorige keer. Deze keer kon je wel het hele trace bezoeken. Ik was er aan het einde van de openstelling, vandaar dat het erg rustig is op de foto's. Bovendien was het gaan regenen.

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3. Einde van de tunnel bij het Kethelplein


4. Zuidkade viaduct


5. Eco aquaduct


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Old December 13th, 2015, 12:54 AM   #13005
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Some dronepics which were made last friday in Harlingen. Progress photos of the N31 project.







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Old December 13th, 2015, 12:20 PM   #13006
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A15, Rotterdam

An aerial photo of the new Botlek Bridge, which is now in full motorway operation. As you can see the rail component is not yet completed.



The Benelux motorway interchange (A4/A15)


More photos: http://defotograaf.eu/blog/a15-mava/
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Old December 13th, 2015, 12:40 PM   #13007
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Considering the previous (2011) situation with A4 gaps in Delft and in Zeeland, and now with these sectors all opened, how much traffic diversion between Den Haag and Antwerp can be expected
from A13=>A20=>A16=>E19 (Be.)
to A4=>A15>=A20=>A4=>A12 (Be.)?
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Old December 13th, 2015, 12:43 PM   #13008
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It opened on 30 November: http://www.n381.nl/606/omzetting-ver...e-nanningaweg/

Sinds vanmorgen rijdt het verkeer tussen Drachten en Donkerbroek over de dubbelbaans weg.

Dubbelbaans = dual carriageway.

I haven't seen any photos of the dual carriageway N381 though.
If I got you right, you are not sure if it has expressway standard, you're not sure if there's a median and if it's grade-separated. If we would get info that it's not expressway standard, I would remove the project from my list.
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Old December 13th, 2015, 12:49 PM   #13009
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No that's incorrect. Drachten - Donkerbroek is definitely a grade-separated dual carriageway. However, I'm not sure if it is now in full 2x2 operation. They first built a new carriageway alongside the existing road, and then rebuilt the existing one (from Drachten to Wijnjewoude, from Wijnjewoude to Donkerbroek there is a new alignment). There hasn't been a press release stating both carriageways are open to traffic.
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Old December 13th, 2015, 04:42 PM   #13010
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N381 Appelscha - Drachten

I was curious about the new N381, so I decided to take a little trip to there. It was nice weather to shoot some photos, normally I don't take many photos during the winter while driving.

1. The Drenthe-Friesland provincial border. The N381 around Appelscha has been widened to modern standards for a single carriageway express road. The Drenthe segment already had these standards.

N381-1 by European Roads, on Flickr

2. The new Appelscha interchange.

N381-4 by European Roads, on Flickr

3. N381 runs through a national park here (Drents-Friese Wold).

N381-5 by European Roads, on Flickr

4. The new Elsloo interchange.

N381-6 by European Roads, on Flickr

5. The Terwisscha underpass, part of the Elsloo interchange.

N381-9 by European Roads, on Flickr

6. The Oosterwolde-south interchange is still under construction and will be for a while from the looks of it. They built a temporary oval roundabout around the construction site. It's an interesting solution that keeps traffic flowing.

N381-12 by European Roads, on Flickr

7. The northern part of the oval roundabout or 'ovatonde'.

N381-13 by European Roads, on Flickr

8. Around Oosterwolde.

N381-14 by European Roads, on Flickr

9. The Oosterwolde-north interchange, which is still half under construction.

N381-16 by European Roads, on Flickr

10. Between Oosterwolde and Donkerbroek.

N381-19 by European Roads, on Flickr

11. The Donkerbroek interchange.

N381-22 by European Roads, on Flickr

12. The four-lane segment starts immediately after the Donkerbroek interchange underpass.

N381-24 by European Roads, on Flickr

13. One of three 'bat hop-overs' along N381.

N381-25 by European Roads, on Flickr

14. Another bat hop-over. Bats use tree lines for navigation, the idea is that they will stay high enough over the expressway to prevent them becoming a roadkill.

N381-27 by European Roads, on Flickr

15. The Wijnjewoude interchange.

N381-30 by European Roads, on Flickr

16. Another bat hop-over. The expressway follows the original N381 alignment between Wijnjewoude and Drachten.

N381-32 by European Roads, on Flickr

17. The Ureterp interchange. This is where the original 2x2 segment ended.

N381-35 by European Roads, on Flickr

18. The cloverleaf between N31, N381 and A7.

N381-37 by European Roads, on Flickr

19. I turned off to follow A7 towards Heerenveen.

N381-39 by European Roads, on Flickr
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Old December 13th, 2015, 06:43 PM   #13011
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Roadside rest area.
Haven't been in there in months. They're crazy in there.

Ahem, sorry. Good news about the A4.
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Old December 13th, 2015, 06:45 PM   #13012
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Some photos of the A4 Delft - Schiedam open day:
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Are there any news finishing A4 between Benelux Interchange and Klaaswaal? It would make A4 fully completed.
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Old December 13th, 2015, 11:35 PM   #13013
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Some photos of the A4 Delft - Schiedam open day:
At Foto No4 "Zuidkade viaduct" is a sign on the right side. I don't get its meaning. May you explain it to me?
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Old December 13th, 2015, 11:38 PM   #13014
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At Foto No4 "Zuidkade viaduct" is a sign on the right side. I don't get its meaning. May you explain it to me?
Those are directions for industrial buildings; the numbers you see is industrial numbering, every company has such a number. In this case it's industrial numbering for the Rotterdam(-harbor) area.
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Old December 14th, 2015, 04:49 PM   #13015
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Are there any news finishing A4 between Benelux Interchange and Klaaswaal? It would make A4 fully completed.
There are currently no plans to construct this link. Though they really want it in the city of Spijkenisse. Spijkenisse has some of the worst local traffic problems in the Netherlands, they have basically two routes in and out of town, both of them requires a bridge crossing. They have had a lot of bridge malfunctions over the recent years. A new eastern outlet would really improve access and better alternatives during incidents.

Another problem is the Haringvliet Bridge along A29, just south of where A4 would join it. It is a bascule bridge that opens rather frequently, and is functionally obsolete.

Replacing the bridge and extending A4 would be very expensive. A4 crosses two rivers between A15 and A29 and the Haringvliet Bridge is relatively long. It will likely be north of € 1 billion, and there seems to be near-zero interest from the national politics.
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There are currently no plans to construct this link. Though they really want it in the city of Spijkenisse. Spijkenisse has some of the worst local traffic problems in the Netherlands, they have basically two routes in and out of town, both of them requires a bridge crossing. They have had a lot of bridge malfunctions over the recent years. A new eastern outlet would really improve access and better alternatives during incidents.

Another problem is the Haringvliet Bridge along A29, just south of where A4 would join it. It is a bascule bridge that opens rather frequently, and is functionally obsolete.

Replacing the bridge and extending A4 would be very expensive. A4 crosses two rivers between A15 and A29 and the Haringvliet Bridge is relatively long. It will likely be north of € 1 billion, and there seems to be near-zero interest from the national politics.
Thanks for the informations. It is quite a lots of money.
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Old December 14th, 2015, 06:45 PM   #13017
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Thanks for the informations. It is quite a lots of money.
Toll road would do the trick nicely. Pay till the banks got double their money back and the road will be there asap, with all necessary landscape features. Not sure why there is such a taboo on temporary toll roads. It would save so much road misery.
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The Haringvliet Bridge was in fact a toll road from opening in 1964 to 1975. The original Benelux Tunnel was also a toll road from 1967 to 1980.
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Toll roads in the Netherlands

Current (major) toll roads;
* N62 Westerschelde Tunnel in Zeeland
* N217 Kil Tunnel near Dordrecht

Shadow toll roads;
* A9 Wijker Tunnel near Haarlem
* A15 Noord Tunnel near Dordrecht

Future toll roads;
* A15 Rhine Bridge near Arnhem
* A24 Blankenburg Tunnel near Rotterdam

Past toll roads;
* A4 Benelux Tunnel (until 1980)
* A29 Haringvliet Bridge (until 1975)
* N256 Zeeland Bridge (until 1993)
* N323 Prince Willem-Alexander Bridge (until 1996)

The N323 bridge in particular was noted as a toll road failure. It was built to make an isolated strip of land between the Waal and Meuse Rivers more accessible, but it had very low usage (especially since it was built to motorway standards). At one point it was seen as a major north-south route to Oss, but the next bridge across the Meuse was never built. After two years of operation, an average of only 2,500 vehicles per day used it. It is nowadays used by 20,000 vehicles per day.
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Any chance of a bridge being built between Megen and Appeltren?
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