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Old December 22nd, 2015, 06:26 PM   #13101
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Was it the same government - i.e., the same parties - that's in power now?
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Old December 22nd, 2015, 07:01 PM   #13102
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A4 Leiden

The A4, direction Amsterdam, at Zoeterwoude-Dorp, a village just south of Leiden, is the 6th worst congestion spot in the Netherlands in 2015, according to VID (Traffic Information Service).

This segment was recently rebuilt, although a lane was added, it was split into a short local-express system with 2 through lanes and 1 local lane. This was designed this way over 20 years ago, and was never updated since, even though space has been preserved for 3+2 or 5 lanes in each direction through the Leiden area (10 lanes total).

The official position of the government is that they want to 'tweak' this problem. But given its high ranking among congestion spots in the Netherlands suggests more is needed than an attempt at a 'quick fix', government lingo for 'maybe we'll change some road markings'.
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Old December 22nd, 2015, 07:46 PM   #13103
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The extra lanes are necessary there, and fast! But the government is as usual way too slow about that....
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Old December 22nd, 2015, 09:35 PM   #13104
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The extra lanes are necessary there, and fast! But the government is as usual way too slow about that....
Melanie will fix it im sure of it!
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Old December 22nd, 2015, 09:50 PM   #13105
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If the government coalition will let her. So far they haven't been keen on reducing the plundering of the infrastructure fund that was agreed with earlier.

It's also a big loss of face with this project if they have to significantly change it so quick after completion. Even if Schultz herself is not responsible for the design phase of the project.

The project was designed in the first half of the 1990s. It wasn't updated since, especially because the final plan approval order was annulled by court in 2007. They did not want to risk it getting annulled again, so they did not materially change the 1990s design.

This project is considered the turning point in Dutch environmental legislation and attitude towards motorway improvement projects.
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Old December 23rd, 2015, 02:03 AM   #13106
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It wasn't officially signed or anything. But it was used in brochures handed out to locals saying "meassures: 100km/h".
So it wasn't black and white, but it was used to speed up the planning proces. So partly the goverment misled the municipalties, but upping the limit was in their legal right as no official doccuments where signed. It isn't very pretty though.....
It is really strange they decided to invoke section control (!) and so many flitsservans but also want to set normal speed limit. Schizophrenic government

Why not just a Montana, USA example and either never enforce the 100 km/h speed limit, or make a special class of speeding ticket, where driving less than 130 km/h on zone 100 is maximum fine 5 Euro or something
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Old December 23rd, 2015, 10:01 AM   #13107
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"Filedruk nog nooit zo snel gestegen" (congestion +25% this year)

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De omvang van de files in Nederland -de filedruk- is in 2015 met circa 25% toegenomen. Het is de grootste toename ooit in een jaar, zowel absoluut als relatief, sinds de VID in 2000 met het verzamelen van file-statistieken begon.
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Old December 23rd, 2015, 07:01 PM   #13108
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A4 Rotterdam - Den Haag

I filmed the new segment of A4 today, the video starts at the Botlek Bridge and ends at the Prins Clausplein stack interchange. It features the Benelux Tunnel, Kethel Tunnel and the A4 trench between Schiedam and Delft.

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Old December 23rd, 2015, 07:30 PM   #13109
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"Filedruk nog nooit zo snel gestegen" (congestion +25% this year)



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https://www.vid.nl/Nieuws/article/VID.2015.356.02
I think this graph gives an better picture, than only saying there is an 25% increase.

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Old December 24th, 2015, 12:28 PM   #13110
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A1-A6 Amsterdam - Almere

Fresh aerial photos of the A1-A6 expansion project. I've driven through here yesterday, it's incredibly huge.

The photos run east (Almere) to west (Diemen).

1. The new Gooimeer motorway interchange (A1/N702).


2. The expanded Holland Bridge. There are now 12 lanes.


3. The Muiderberg motorway interchange (A1/A6) with the new arch bridge for the Amsterdam - Lelystad - Zwolle railroad. It will eventually span the A1.


4. The Muiderberg interchange, looking east.


5. Aquaduct Vechtzicht. The widest 'aquaduct' in the world at 12 lanes. The existing motorway to the left will be demolished.


6. The new alignment of A1 is much wider than the current 8 lane motorway.


7. This is possibly the widest right-of-way of a motorway in the Netherlands. There will be 18 through lanes here.


8. The second bridge across the Amsterdam-Rhine Canal that will carry traffic to and from A9.

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Old December 26th, 2015, 03:57 PM   #13111
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A4 Rotterdam - Delft

Some photos of A4 from Rotterdam to Delft which I took last Wednesday.

1. Approaching the Kethelplein motorway interchange (A4/A20). There are split lanes due to the multiple tubes of the Benelux Tunnel. The tunnel has a 5th tube with a reversible lane that is never in operation.

A4 Midden-Delfland-1 by European Roads, on Flickr

2. A4 is now one of a few stretches in the Netherlands where there are 6 lanes in one direction, 3 to A4 and 3 to A20.

A4 Midden-Delfland-2 by European Roads, on Flickr

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A4 Midden-Delfland-3 by European Roads, on Flickr

4. Approaching the Ketheltunnel. A4 is extensively soundwalled. The area has one of the largest concentrations of apartment buildings in the Netherlands.

A4 Midden-Delfland-4 by European Roads, on Flickr

5. A4 is also one of the few locations with a noise barrier in the median.

A4 Midden-Delfland-5 by European Roads, on Flickr

6. Tunnel category C. The speed limit is 100 km/h.

A4 Midden-Delfland-6 by European Roads, on Flickr

7. There are 4 lanes in the northbound tube of the Kethel Tunnel. The tunnel is 2000 meters long southbound and 1700 meters northbound.

A4 Midden-Delfland-7 by European Roads, on Flickr

8. The left lane ends shortly after the tunnel.

A4 Midden-Delfland-8 by European Roads, on Flickr

9. A4 has a number of bridges, the one in the foreground is for cyclists, the one in the background is an 'eco-aquaduct'. It's basically a small wetland area over the A4.

A4 Midden-Delfland-9 by European Roads, on Flickr

10. The trench. It is the lowest point in the Netherlands that is not in a tunnel (-10.2 m)

A4 Midden-Delfland-10 by European Roads, on Flickr

11. The trench is less deep closer to Delft.

A4 MIdden-Delfland-11 by European Roads, on Flickr

12. It was designed that as little as possible sticks out above the surround area.

A4 Midden-Delfland-12 by European Roads, on Flickr

13. The smallest 'fork' sign in the Netherlands? There are some in tunnels.

A4 Midden-Delfland-13 by European Roads, on Flickr

14. Exit to N470. It is one of only a few N4xx numbers that is actually signed. Most of them are only posted on hectometer poles and in documents, hence not a lot of people are aware of N400+ numbers.

A4 Midden-Delfland-14 by European Roads, on Flickr

15. The left lane ends at Delft. There is only a few kilometers of two lanes northbound until Den Haag-Zuid, there is space to easily add another lane, half of the route already has pavement for a third through lane.

A4 Midden-Delfland-15 by European Roads, on Flickr
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Old December 26th, 2015, 08:44 PM   #13112
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Some photos of A4 from Rotterdam to Delft which I took last Wednesday.

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2. A4 is now one of a few stretches in the Netherlands where there are 6 lanes in one direction, 3 to A4 and 3 to A20.

A4 Midden-Delfland-2 by European Roads, on Flickr

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A4 Midden-Delfland-3 by European Roads, on Flickr
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Proficiaat, Nederland!

What are the yellow boxes with 2 and 9 in them?

PS: Road_UK would approve of the lane discipline.
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Old December 26th, 2015, 08:49 PM   #13113
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Had a drive in both directions on the A4, better late than never!

Where can we claim for damages (economic loss over the past 50 years) against all those who opposed the road ?
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Old December 26th, 2015, 09:09 PM   #13114
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Fresh aerial photos of the A1-A6 expansion project. I've driven through here yesterday, it's incredibly huge.

The photos run east (Almere) to west (Diemen).
Amazing roadworks

when is this intersection about to be finished?
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Old December 30th, 2015, 11:34 AM   #13116
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Proficiaat, Nederland!

What are the yellow boxes with 2 and 9 in them?

PS: Road_UK would approve of the lane discipline.
The 2 and 9 are diversion routes!
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Old December 30th, 2015, 04:09 PM   #13117
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A9, Amsterdam

Aerial photos of the A9 expansion in southeastern Amsterdam. It's part of the large Schiphol - Amsterdam - Almere project. The A9 will be widened from 4 to 11 lanes with a reversible lane and a local-express system. They are currently working on the 3 kilometer long Gaasperdam Tunnel which is a cover on top of the motorway. It is the longest land tunnel in the Netherlands.

A peculiar stretch is the point where A9 runs under the Utrecht - Amsterdam Railway, one of the busiest rail corridors in the Netherlands. The railway overpass will be incorporated as part of the tunnel, so that closures of the railway will be kept to an absolute minimum.



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Old December 30th, 2015, 04:49 PM   #13118
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Impressive project, I saw it on Wegenforum.
Can we borrow your transportation minister?
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Old December 30th, 2015, 05:11 PM   #13119
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I know they are not exactly the most enticing neighborhoods, but those aerial views or Southeast Amsterdam (Bijlmer, Hollendrecth, Diemen) have very interesting geometric shapes when seen from birds-eye view.
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Old December 30th, 2015, 06:22 PM   #13120
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The whole setup of the Bijlmermeer was quite innovative, with all modes of traffic seperated and each district having its own parking garage. Unfortunately because of social and demographic situations it was unsustainable.



I do wish they would have left some 'honeycomb flats' and gave them a good renovation and built less single family terraced housing to replace them
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