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Old January 14th, 2016, 07:42 PM   #13201
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Would have the southern-A4 helped, in this case?
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Old January 14th, 2016, 07:48 PM   #13202
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Not without a Haringvlietbrug with more lanes.
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Old January 14th, 2016, 08:22 PM   #13203
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Indeed. Even with a larger new Moerdijkbrug or Moerdijktunnel the Haringvlietbrug needs to be renewed as well combined with the A4-South development. With a higher mounted road to increase the height for ships to pass without opening the bridge and with (eventually) 4 lanes in each direction.
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Old January 14th, 2016, 08:28 PM   #13204
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That's the problem with the A4 southern extension from Rotterdam. This link alone would be very expensive as it crosses two rivers with shipping, likely requiring tunnels. But there is also a need to replace the Haringvliet Bridge, and possibly also the bridge across the Volkerak Locks. These are all costly projects.

Of course they could just construct the A4 extension, but that would lead to problems downstream.

But it is possible the Haringvliet Bridge will be replaced in the medium term, as the bridge is already 52 years old and is structurally obsolete (no outside shoulders, insufficient inside shoulders, a drawbridge).
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Old January 14th, 2016, 09:26 PM   #13205
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The Haringvliet Bridge was a toll road from 1964 to 1975.

The toll was 3.50 guilders for a passenger car from 1964, then 2.50 guilders from 1968 and finally 2.00 guilders from 1970. It's quite expensive if you think about it and adjust it to inflation. It's about € 9 one-way adjusted to 2013 value according to an inflation calculator.

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Old January 15th, 2016, 02:57 PM   #13206
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These are all costly projects.
They are. But the necessity to spend money on these projects rises literally dramatically over the last period. And the need for them was always there, and with increasing traffic the number of bottlenecks rises. And in this area of The Netherlands they rise is the strongest. The strong rise in accidents show that these connections are all operating without any margins and that they are already operating above the normal capacity.

But we might have reached the point where a new Deltaplan to cope with insufficient capacity in our national infrastructure is required. That should also include the railway capacity since NS is also operating at the limits of what it can do. The traffic jams and capacity shortages on the rail are at present spiralling out of control.....
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Old January 16th, 2016, 11:45 AM   #13207
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Van Brienenoord Bridge (A16) under construction in Rotterdam, early 1960s.


Merwede Bridge (A27) nearly completed in Gorinchem, circa 1961. It replaced a ferry, so little did they know the bridge would carry up to 100,000 vehicles per day 50 years later...
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Old January 16th, 2016, 03:17 PM   #13208
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So before then the only crossings were the Maastunnel and the bridge at Geldermalsen?
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Old January 16th, 2016, 03:58 PM   #13209
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It depends on the river system. Pre-1960 there were also bridges in Dordrecht and Alblasserdam.

But yes, river crossings were very limited prior to 1960, and are still a major transportation bottleneck. Nearly all bridges across the major rivers operate near capacity. Only the Prince Willem-Alexander Bridge east of Tiel has plenty of capacity to spare.

When the A16 Moerdijk Bridge was blocked, traffic had to find alternate routes (A27 & A29). The result was a 40 kilometer traffic jam on A15, the east-west motorway that provides access to these alternate bridges and tunnels.
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Old January 16th, 2016, 07:55 PM   #13210
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Van Brienenoord Bridge (A16) under construction in Rotterdam, early 1960s.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/53byRnI.jpg[img]

Merwede Bridge (A27) nearly completed in Gorinchem, circa 1961. It replaced a ferry, so little did they know the bridge would carry up to 100,000 vehicles per day 50 years later...
[img]http://i.imgur.com/VezSReN.jpg[img]

Awesome pictures, were these original color pics or black&white restored/edited to color? The top one looks like an original color photo!

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So before then the only crossings were the Maastunnel and the bridge at Geldermalsen?
I may be incorrect, but I think the first Willemsbrug was also there!
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Old January 17th, 2016, 10:59 AM   #13211
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An unusual roundabout where the bike paths goes straight through the center along N384 near Boazum, Friesland province.

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Old January 17th, 2016, 12:14 PM   #13212
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Awesome pictures, were these original color pics or black&white restored/edited to color? The top one looks like an original color photo!


I may be incorrect, but I think the first Willemsbrug was also there!
There were already color photos in 1960, although they are scarce because, back then, color film was very expensive compared to the black and white one. That's why you can find black and white photos taken well into the 1970s, although technology for color photos had been invented decades before.
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Old January 17th, 2016, 01:24 PM   #13213
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A nice aerial photo of the Neherkade underpass in The Hague, completed last year.

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Old January 17th, 2016, 01:59 PM   #13214
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Old January 17th, 2016, 07:11 PM   #13215
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They must have big pumps working all the time to drain it?
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Old January 17th, 2016, 08:10 PM   #13216
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That applies to everything West of Amersfoort...
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Old January 19th, 2016, 02:51 PM   #13217
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A12 Ede - Arnhem

The widening of A12 between Ede and the Grijsoord motorway interchange (A50) near Arnhem will be completed six months ahead of schedule. The motorway is being widened from four to six lanes in a 16 month timespan. All bridges are widened or replaced along this stretch. The works will be completed by summer.

The main widening works were done in only three months, with a reduced speed of 90 km/h. Otherwise the traffic impact was very limited.


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Old January 19th, 2016, 03:37 PM   #13218
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The sign is wrong? There should be an upward arrow in the middle lane.
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Old January 19th, 2016, 03:45 PM   #13219
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Lane #3 (from the inside) will be a taper exit, which splits in a through lane and exit lane. There will be 2 lanes towards Eindhoven and 3 towards Oberhausen, but the left lane will end shortly after the gore point.
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Old January 19th, 2016, 04:29 PM   #13220
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Is this one of those projects where the contractor has to pay RWS a fee per hourly disruption and a much larger fee per closure, per lane?
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