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Old January 25th, 2016, 06:12 PM   #13261
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Do they have those big red signs indicating traffic can't go through and must turn right?
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Old January 25th, 2016, 08:18 PM   #13262
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They have placed these (temporary) signs to clear things up.

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Old January 25th, 2016, 08:27 PM   #13263
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This should be the proper way to use it:

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Old January 25th, 2016, 09:37 PM   #13264
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Awful signage.
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Old January 25th, 2016, 09:41 PM   #13265
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I think it's pretty good for a temporary sign. Most temporary signage is much worse.
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Old January 25th, 2016, 09:59 PM   #13266
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Do they have the white on blue arrow sign at least to indicate a right turn is mandatory?
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Old January 25th, 2016, 10:04 PM   #13267
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I haven't seen the signage, but judging from the video and the map, the entrance from the Otto van Reesweg doesn't look much like a roundabout if you're unfamiliar with the situation. It looks like a regular priority intersection.

This may have been better as a pair of one-way streets. It doesn't look like a roundabout. In addition, the road layout should automatically guide motorists to turn right.
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Old January 26th, 2016, 12:58 AM   #13268
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where does the ladder lead to?

(I'm almost sure that's the first association of many people driving there)
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Old January 26th, 2016, 08:37 AM   #13269
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Unusual road layout in the town of Culemborg, people are driving the wrong way.

Its not really built that well. But 3 of these signs should do the job, right?


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Old January 26th, 2016, 01:22 PM   #13270
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I haven't seen the signage, but judging from the video and the map, the entrance from the Otto van Reesweg doesn't look much like a roundabout if you're unfamiliar with the situation. It looks like a regular priority intersection.

This may have been better as a pair of one-way streets. It doesn't look like a roundabout. In addition, the road layout should automatically guide motorists to turn right.
The Google imagery tells that there was a roundabout earlier. One of the most important things while making new and non-intuitive arrangements is the change management: advance warnings, good signage, etc. Now it seems to me that there is space for improvement. I would extend the divider and equip it with several red-and-yellow poles.
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Old January 26th, 2016, 03:51 PM   #13271
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Knooppunt Kleinpolderplein

The Kleinpolderplein Motorway Interchange (A13/A20) in Rotterdam under construction in the late 1960s. The interchange was completed by 1970.





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Old January 26th, 2016, 04:25 PM   #13272
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The Kleinpolderplein Motorway Interchange (A13/A20) in Rotterdam under construction in the late 1960s. The interchange was completed by 1970.
Leuke fotoos. Ik kan mij de stoplichten nog voor de geest halen die je daar destijds had......onvoorstelbaar
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Old January 26th, 2016, 04:37 PM   #13273
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Psst, this is the international part of the forums, English is the preferred language here
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Old January 26th, 2016, 04:41 PM   #13274
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If the government coalition will let her. So far they haven't been keen on reducing the plundering of the infrastructure fund that was agreed with earlier.

It's also a big loss of face with this project if they have to significantly change it so quick after completion. Even if Schultz herself is not responsible for the design phase of the project.

The project was designed in the first half of the 1990s. It wasn't updated since, especially because the final plan approval order was annulled by court in 2007. They did not want to risk it getting annulled again, so they did not materially change the 1990s design.

This project is considered the turning point in Dutch environmental legislation and attitude towards motorway improvement projects.
Whatever turning point it is, they wasted buckets full of money on a project which did not solve anything for traffic here. Bottlenecks are still existing going back from 3 to 2 lanes etcetera. To put it stronger, congestion now backs up to the recently opened A4 at the Delft Zuid exit.
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Old January 26th, 2016, 11:43 PM   #13275
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Psst, this is the international part of the forums, English is the preferred language here
It's ok, as long as we're allowed to speak English in the Dutch threads

Sometimes I'd like to discuss something there, but I guess it's not exactly polite since there is a proper English-speaking section...

I'm waiting for the day English will be made 2nd official language of the Kingdom
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Old January 27th, 2016, 11:27 AM   #13276
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For now, you may use English in any thread concerning the communes of Bonaire, St Eustace and Saba, where it is one of the official languages.
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Old January 27th, 2016, 11:28 AM   #13277
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Rijnland Route, Leiden

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The final plans for the construction of N434 - Rijnland Route have been published. It involves a new link between A4 and A44 south of Leiden. It will reduce the travel time between those motorways from 20 to 3 minutes. It includes a 2.520 meter long bored twin-tube tunnel. The projected AADT is 57.000 vehicles per day.

The environmental impact statements for the construction of the A4 & A44 interchanges, plus the extension of the A4 local-express system and widening of A44 to 8 lanes have been published as well.

Project website: http://www.zuid-holland.nl/onderwerp.../rijnlandroute

The Council of State issued a lengthy verdict today regarding the plans for the Rijnland Route. Practically all appeals were dismissed. Two appeals were correct, but these involved only minor changes which will not cause any delays. A zoning map has to be corrected for a minor issue, and wording in another section need to be clarified.

All in all, the Rijnland Route can proceed! This project has been planned in one form of the other since the 1950s, but was dormant for prolonged periods of time. At almost € 1 billion, it is the most expensive provincial road projects in the Netherlands.
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Old January 27th, 2016, 09:03 PM   #13278
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Great, but:

What will they do about the daily congestion around Roelofarendsveen and Leiderdorp, both are chokepoints in the morning ? adding an interchange that feeds into this road will only make it worse.

Meh tunnel... Ah well better than nothing but still...
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Old January 27th, 2016, 09:45 PM   #13279
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You mean congestion in direction Prins Clausplein?

Also, was N11 designed to be extended into Leiden? Maybe connecting with N206.

I guess N434 draws the definitive setup of western Leiden (in terms of network and urban development), it's clearly the city's belt road.
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Old January 27th, 2016, 09:59 PM   #13280
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N11 used to be a super two highway east of Leiden until the late 1990s. It had shoulders, which they illegaly (without procedures) turned into driving lanes. It was legalized in 2010 with a new environmental impact assessment.
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