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Old March 13th, 2017, 11:22 AM   #14441
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Old March 14th, 2017, 03:52 PM   #14442
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N434 Rijnland Route, Leiden

Construction officially began today on the new expressway between A4 and A44 south of the city of Leiden, also known as the Rijnland Route, numbered N434.

Full-scale construction will start in late 2017, the tunnel boring will start mid-2019. The whole project, including the A4 and A44 expansions, will be completed by late 2022.



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Old March 14th, 2017, 06:57 PM   #14443
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Meuse bridges

Bridges across the Meuse / Maas River, mostly in Limburg province.

There is a large volume of concrete cantilevered box girder bridges among the motorway crossings. All but one motorway bridge across the Meuse south of Den Bosch is such a bridge type. The only exception is the Scharberg Bridge (A76/E314) which is a beam bridge and owned by Belgium.

0. Scharberg Bridge (A76/E314)


1. John F. Kennedy Bridge in Maastricht (N278)


2. John. S. Thompson Bridge in Grave () (N324)


3. Koninginnebrug (Queen's Bridge) at Well (N270)


4. Meuse Bridge at Gennep (N264)


5. Hedel Bridge (former rijksweg 2)


6. Heumen Bridge (A73)


7. Ravenstein Bridge (A50)


8. Roermond Bridge (N280)
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Old March 15th, 2017, 02:12 AM   #14444
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Talking about Dutch bridges, and the mess that is happening in Germany... given the high increase of traffic volumes, are NL risking similar problems with their older bridges?
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Old March 15th, 2017, 12:00 PM   #14445
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It doesn't seem likely. The Netherlands also has some local bridges that are in poor condition, but nowhere on the scale of Germany, where it seems that the entire 1960s infrastructure is written off and needs to be replaced.

There are no motorway bridges in the Netherlands that are in really poor condition. They do plan to replace the A27 bridges, mainly because they are steel bridges and suffer from fatigue.

I've read that the concrete bridges are much stronger than anticipated when originally built, so they could be strengthened to extend their life by another 30 years, in Germany a strengthening often only holds 10 - 15 years or is not economical at all.

There hasn't been any motorway bridge replacement for reasons other than capacity expansion. Some would argue that Germany is hillier and has many Talbrücken which the Netherlands does not have, which is true, but the German bridge problems are not limited to those Talbrücken, on some motorways everything needs to be demolished, including overpasses, underpasses, interchange viaducts, etc. That hasn't happened in the Netherlands.
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Old March 15th, 2017, 07:55 PM   #14446
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Traffic in Greater Amsterdam has gridlocked after a severe accident on A8 which closed the motorway. The VID traffic information recorded 80 kilometers of traffic jam on the motorway system around Amsterdam, which rarely happens.

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Old March 16th, 2017, 12:34 PM   #14447
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Does the result of election mean that we can have mind blowing construction news in this thread for many years to come?
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Old March 16th, 2017, 12:37 PM   #14448
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Too soon to tell, the Greens will likely join the coalition and we don't know what the parties will end up compromising on.
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Old March 16th, 2017, 02:46 PM   #14449
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The 3 biggest parties are in favor of infrastructure, so I think they we will see quite some. But it indeed depends on the 4th party added to get a majority.

Could be Groenlinks (a big winner, but has totally different stances and hates cars), Christenunie (conservative and no margin if someone would resign) or maybe PvdA (left-winged, but more moderate than Groenlinks, but also huge loser, so unlikely if wanting to please voters). PVV (national socialists) would be highly unlikely because almost all parties pledged to keep them out of power.

Another option would be 2 additional parties, but that would make it even harder to agree on policy.
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Old March 16th, 2017, 03:50 PM   #14450
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I think it will be interesting to see how the 'kilometer charge' debate will play out.

Most predict a coalition of VVD+CDA+D66 and a fourth party (GL, CU or PvdA). VVD+CDA are against such a kilometer charge. D66 is basically in favor, but doesn't appear a huge advocate like GL, who wants to punish motorists with high tolls. However other forces in parliament not likely to form a part of the coalition are also against, such as PVV and SP.

GreenLeft is obviously staunchy anti-roads. D66 is center-left and tends to be more pragmatic on mobility, they favor public transport but also won't likely make roads a deal breaker.

On the other hand, GreenLeft knows that they may get more done with climate and environment in government than outside. But GL may also be punished for being a junior coalition partner, like most left-wing parties are punished in the next elections after such a government, which could make them more hesitant to participate in a government coalition, especially because VVD is a far larger and more dominant party and is ideologically the most distant from GL in such a coalition.
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Old March 16th, 2017, 10:36 PM   #14451
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The plan approval documents for the A15 extension from the Ressen interchange (A325) to the future Oudbroeken interchange (A12) have been published today.

The changes compared to the draft plan approval documentation are relatively small.

The most notable missing information is the exact bridge type that will be used to cross the Rhine River (technically it is called the Pannerden Canal). However, they do give some hints (low visual impact, no height accents, no 'vertical' landmark, in line with other bridges, using existing bridge type designs, etc. Which all hints to a standard concrete cantilevered box-girder bridge.

The main span is quoted as 'circa 200 meters' which would be the longest box-girder bridge span in the Netherlands. The 192 meter span of the Dintelhaven Bridge (A15 in Rotterdam) is presently the longest such span in the Netherlands. Some Norwegian box girder bridges span up to 300 meters, but those are two-lane roads, not motorways.

The bridge will feature 2x2 lanes and a bike path on the north side. The entire river crossing will be over 2 kilometers long, which will be the longest river crossing in the Netherlands. The bridge will have a clearance of only 1 meter across the river dikes, enough for a future dike heightening, the roads across the dikes will be led along the underside of the dike to keep traffic going.
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Old March 16th, 2017, 10:40 PM   #14452
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Will Melanie Schultz take a new cabinet post?
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No, she stated she is not available for a third term for Minister of Infrastructure & Environment. The was minister from 2010 to 2017.
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She certainly attended plenty of ribbon-cutting ceremonies! Certainly more than her predecessor, Eurlings.
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That's because Eurlings set the precedents for those projects to be started. Eurlings really didn't do a bad job at all.
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Present governments always reap the projects initiated by previous governments.

It started in 2003 with the short-lived cabinet Balkenende I with minister Roelf de Boer, who initiated the 'urgent law road widening'. Although it could not proceed due to air quality issues, it set a large amount of funding aside to address congestion. It was continued at a lower pace among minister Karla Peijs (Balkenende II) and the breakthrough with legislation was during minister Camiel Eurlings (Balkenende IV) so many projects could commence, which explains the huge volume of motorway expansion projects between 2010 and 2014 during Melanie Schultz' term (Rutte I & II). Cutbacks due to budgetary problems resulted in a lower volume post-2014.
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That's because Eurlings set the precedents for those projects to be started. Eurlings really didn't do a bad job at all.
Sure, this was not criticism of him. Only Spain has had a more robust program of highway infrastructure expansion than Netherlands in Western Europe over last 10 years.
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A10 Amsterdam

The western part of the A10 Amsterdam Ring Road will be closed this summer for major renovation works.

The motorway will be entirely shut down for 3 weeks in each direction, starting with southbound (S102 to A4) from 24 July to 13 August, and then northbound (A4 to S102) from 14 August to 4 September.

The renovation was originally planned for 2018, but is expedited to avoid it running concurrent with other major road works in the area. A5, A10 and A9 will be the main detour routes.

The works;
* resurfacing all lanes, ramps and parallel roads
* replacing all bridge joints
* replacing the 'matrix signs' (motorway traffic management systems)
* rehabilitating the drainage systems.

When finished, A10 won't need any major works for the next 10 years.

A similar major renovation programme ran in 2001, but they used a different system, a 4+0 system which allowed traffic in both directions on one side of the motorway. 2017 will be different, only one side of traffic will be closed and detoured via other motorways. Having A5 available is now a major asset. 2001 had a 3 month construction period, this summer it will be only 3 weeks in each direction.
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Goes

An interesting set of turbo roundabouts at the new A58 exit at Goes (Zeeland province).

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Old March 19th, 2017, 08:09 PM   #14460
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Is it safe to have a railway right between 2 roundabouts?

If the railroad crossing light is red, it might be that the roundabouts will get blocked by the cars waiting in the queue.

In case there is an accident and one of the roundabouts get blocked, the cars waiting in the queue for the roundabout might stop on the railway...
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