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Old August 4th, 2008, 11:25 AM   #1441
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why are they building tunnel here?

is the alignment correction for freeing the river bank?
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Old August 4th, 2008, 02:11 PM   #1442
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Nope, the 'river' is the Amsterdam-Rijnkanaal which won't be altered. The landtunnel is being built in order to minimise the impact of the A2 between Utrecht and its Leidsche Rijn residential expansion. A new city centre will be built to the left of this picture and will remain unharmed by traffic.
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Old August 4th, 2008, 02:28 PM   #1443
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The current AADT is 180.000 at the 6 lane section, however, Leidsche Rijn is to generate much more traffic, since it will house 90.000 inhabitants. It's the largest urban expansion project in the Netherlands.
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Old August 4th, 2008, 04:09 PM   #1444
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It's a bit off-topic, but how come that there is such a demand for new housing in the netherlands? Is there so much immigration or births? In Germany, it's now a huge sensation if a new construction site hosts more than 5,000 people.
I am jealous ;-)
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Old August 4th, 2008, 04:13 PM   #1445
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Well, the Netherlands is still growing in terms of population, in contrast to Germany, where they have a small decline if I remember correctly. Besides that, there is a demographic shift to fewer people per household, I believe it's 2.2 per household, which is generally much lower than in area's like the United States. So you need more houses for the same amount of population.
A third issue is that a lot of social housing from the 50's and 60's is being replaced, especially crime-ridden flat neighbourhoods. Because of the increased welfare, fewer people want to live in an old apartment, and more people can afford a single-family home, so you need more space for housing, however Dutch suburban developments are usually still pretty dense compared to North America. We don't have those endless hoods with detached homes like in Spain or the United States.
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Old August 4th, 2008, 06:56 PM   #1446
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Now I know why I hate the dutch driving style so much. Like 80-90% of the people drive less than 70 at the 80-zone on the A12 just because people are just too afraid to be fined.
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Old August 4th, 2008, 07:02 PM   #1447
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You can drive 90 on your speedometer without getting a fine. If you have a TomTom, drive approximatly 84km/h, and you won't get fined. That's usually near 90km/h on your speedometer, and easily 15 - 20km/h faster than the other traffic.
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Old August 4th, 2008, 07:50 PM   #1448
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in NL tomtom means GPS?

(in hungary FLEX means angle grinder and STIHL means chainsaw... )
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Old August 4th, 2008, 08:43 PM   #1449
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TomTom is from Dutch origin, and I believe the most widely used GPS by far. I have one too.
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Old August 4th, 2008, 08:50 PM   #1450
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These shots were taken with extreme zoom:

1. From interchange Hattemerbroek. The two signs are over 1 kilometer apart.
[IMG]http://i38.************/2wqg1u1.jpg[/IMG]

2. Same location.
[IMG]http://i35.************/2rwm0oz.jpg[/IMG]
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Old August 8th, 2008, 02:27 PM   #1451
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Old August 9th, 2008, 08:02 AM   #1452
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Weird Frisian names
A few years ago some Fc Groningen supporters changed the 'Heerenveen - It Hearrenfean' entrance sign into 'Hoerenveen - It Sucks' (for the dutch forumers)
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Old August 9th, 2008, 01:12 PM   #1453
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Gotta love Sexbierum. Obviously the sign op the pic isn't nicked yet?
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Old August 10th, 2008, 05:12 PM   #1454
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The following pics are taken around Apeldoorn of the A50 and A1 by Dutch forumer Jeroen O from the wegenforum.

1: A50 afrit 25 / Apeldoorn-Noord, kijkend in de richting van Zwolle.


2: A1 afrit 20 / Apeldoorn-Zuid, kijkend naar het zuiden.


3: Dezelfde afrit maar nu kijkend in de richting van Amersfoort.


4: A50 afrit 23 / Loenen, kijkend in de richting van Arnhem.


5: A1 afrit 21 / Voorst, kijkend naar het noorden. Ik kreeg de afrit niet helemaal goed in beeld. Ook zitten er hinderlijke, maar helaas niet te voorkomen reflecties van het vliegtuigraam in beeld.


6: A1 richting Deventer ter hoogte van de hierboven genoemde afrit.


Helaas zijn we niet over knooppunt Beekbergen gekomen.
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Old August 13th, 2008, 12:26 PM   #1455
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Old August 14th, 2008, 11:33 AM   #1456
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Browsing the dutch network I found this "gap" on A7:

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the new alignment of the A7 (west of Sneek) seems to be brand new... (the route can't be seen on the sat layer only on the map layer)

but why did they build it this "silly" way?

why didn't they build it on the red route making a full bypass without spoiling the already complete city ring?
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Old August 14th, 2008, 11:35 AM   #1457
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I thought that they are working on it now. It has been a major issue for years, and it will continue to be that if the gap isn't closed soon.
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Old August 14th, 2008, 11:39 AM   #1458
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No, Laci is right, they're upgrading the current ringroad of Sneek, with a small bypass on the southeastern corner. They didn't build the red route, because it was considered in a environmental-sensitive area. However, these days, all open spaces are about the be considered a sensitive area, so the word has kind of lost it's meaning.
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Old August 14th, 2008, 11:42 AM   #1459
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It's constructed as N7 by the way, and the area around the new aqueduct is substandard..


I made a video of the newest western section, entering Sneek from the west.


A small bypass is U/C near the current eastern traffic lights
[img]http://i28.************/6te41s.jpg[/img]

A grade-separated junction will be constructed along the route.
[img]http://i30.************/24uymtv.jpg[/img]

Freakin steep aqueduct
[img]http://i27.************/2cdbdhf.jpg[/img]

So, in short, the Sneek ringroad is being reconstructed into a grade-separated freeflowing road, however, it will be a motorroad with 2x2 lanes, so not a freeway with shoulders. Speed limit will be 80km/h if I recall correctly. The milemarkers will say A7 though. Quite confusing.
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Old August 14th, 2008, 11:43 AM   #1460
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I meant that they were working on closing, but I wasn't clear. Didn't you make pics of it recently? -edit- yes, you did
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