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Old May 31st, 2017, 09:41 PM   #14621
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Because interest rates are still low, this is a great time for PPPs. They might work well, but they need to be carefully designed, especially in terms of that happens at extreme tails of parameters of the contracts (for instance, if traffic is 3x as much as expected; which happened in some projects in other countries, leading to very high financial expenses for the state). Even more, there needs to be some protection against what happens if traffic doesn't materialize. If it is easy for backers to get out of the project by declaring its Special-Purpose Entity bankrupt, then it can become something lopsided or giving too much leverage to commercially aggressive contractor: win the bid with unrealistic bids, then use the threat of bankruptcy to force favorable renegotiation some 6-8 years ahead.

Several PPP road projects in US, sadly, suffer from that problem, including that bizarre case of a whole road closed to traffic because of bankruptcy in Texas, but I think NL has better governance on these issues because RWS is nowhere as ideologically hijacked as DOTs in US.
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Old June 1st, 2017, 06:10 PM   #14622
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A2 Maastricht

I filmed the new King Willem-Alexander Tunnel in Maastricht last week. The video was filmed 5 days apart, first going on the express lanes through the lower tube and then on the local lanes through the upper tube. You can see the differences between both tubes.

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Old June 1st, 2017, 10:24 PM   #14623
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A6 Almere

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Old June 1st, 2017, 11:17 PM   #14624
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Because interest rates are still low, this is a great time for PPPs. They might work well, but they need to be carefully designed, especially in terms of that happens at extreme tails of parameters of the contracts (for instance, if traffic is 3x as much as expected; which happened in some projects in other countries, leading to very high financial expenses for the state). Even more, there needs to be some protection against what happens if traffic doesn't materialize. If it is easy for backers to get out of the project by declaring its Special-Purpose Entity bankrupt, then it can become something lopsided or giving too much leverage to commercially aggressive contractor: win the bid with unrealistic bids, then use the threat of bankruptcy to force favorable renegotiation some 6-8 years ahead.

Several PPP road projects in US, sadly, suffer from that problem, including that bizarre case of a whole road closed to traffic because of bankruptcy in Texas, but I think NL has better governance on these issues because RWS is nowhere as ideologically hijacked as DOTs in US.
I think you're thinking of Shadow Toll, which means that the government pays for every car that uses the road. This isn't the case with the DBFM contracts. The government pays for every day the road is available for traffic, independent of the number of vehicles that actually use the road. This way there are no hidden costs.
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Old June 2nd, 2017, 12:28 AM   #14625
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Shadow tolls and availability payments are species of the genre PPP.

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I did not know they had built this near Rotterdam

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Old June 2nd, 2017, 12:29 AM   #14626
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Old June 2nd, 2017, 12:52 AM   #14627
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Yup, in Spijkenisse, though now I cannot find them. I remember one of the bridges had a design in one side and another in the other side.

Edit: found them. Here is the 500 euro note bridge, and further down the road are the 50 and the 10 euro ones. And here is the weird bridge, with the 5 euro note design on the right side and the 20 euro one on the left. Further down is the 200 euro note bridge and further up is the 100 euro one. So all seven designs are present.
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Old June 2nd, 2017, 12:54 AM   #14628
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Yup, in Spijkenisse, though now I cannot find them.
https://www.google.nl/maps/@51.84903...7i13312!8i6656
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Old June 2nd, 2017, 05:22 PM   #14629
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Buitenring Parkstad Limburg

A section of the new Heerlen regional expressway opened to traffic at 4 p.m. today. It runs from Eygelshoven to Gaiazoo.

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It's unclear to me if it opened in both directions or southbound only. The other carriageway doesn't look finished on this video printscreen, but it was taken this morning considering the shadows.

It could also be a temporary opening to accommodate traffic to the Pinkpop Festival which starts today, it's a three-day festival that attracts approximately 70,000 people per day.





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Old June 2nd, 2017, 06:24 PM   #14630
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Rotterdamsebaan, The Hague

The rings for the tunnel boring machine pit have been installed at the future Victory Boogie-Woogie Tunnel in The Hague. The boring process will start in early 2018.

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Old June 2nd, 2017, 06:34 PM   #14631
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Will the tunnel be decorated with Mondriaan motifs?
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Old June 2nd, 2017, 07:43 PM   #14632
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At the very least I hope, to compensate the poor thing for such a frivolous name

Every time Chris writes about it I think he's trying to pull some sort of joke on us
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Old June 2nd, 2017, 08:37 PM   #14633
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Unfortunately it is true

https://www.denhaag.nl/home/bewoners...rdamsebaan.htm

De Rotterdamsebaan bestaat voor een deel uit een geboorde tunnel. Deze tunnel gaat de Victory Boogie Woogietunnel heten.
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Old June 2nd, 2017, 09:28 PM   #14634
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For those who are missing the reference, Victory Boogie Woogie is one of Piet Mondrian, a famous Dutch painter, masterpieces. It is incomplete though, he died before finishing it, in 1944

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Old June 2nd, 2017, 09:36 PM   #14635
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Let's hope the tunnel is properly finished though
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Old June 2nd, 2017, 09:55 PM   #14636
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This year, that style is 100 years old so it's fvcking everywhere right now. I hate it.
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Old June 2nd, 2017, 10:43 PM   #14637
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A50

A50 near Nijmegen (Valburg - Ewijk) in 2010 and 2017:


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Old June 4th, 2017, 05:52 PM   #14638
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N279 's-Hertogenbosch - Veghel

Some photos of the N279 expansion project that was completed late 2016, with the final asphalt applied in early 2017.


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Old June 5th, 2017, 11:06 PM   #14639
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I am sorry, but this reads as a pointless rant without more information that will come during the investigation.
Well yes. But for me to read: "An major and experienced construction company". Was also something, that caused me to think: So What? They are big and experienced so they never make mistakes?

And the next post about bad paid workers making shitty work was a bit rude yes. But i don't know how things are done in NL, but the big and experienced company showing its name is not the (only) one doing the job. There are a lot of supporters. Sometimes a subcontradtor who does the real work, and maybe subcontractors of subcontractors.

There was a building of an bridge for a national road with a blog about it next to my place. It was dozens of companies involved in this small project.

So yes, nothing is clear until everything is clear. But to point out how many people are involved makes clear that something wrong can happen. And that it means more effort to find out.
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Old June 5th, 2017, 11:13 PM   #14640
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Unlike some other countries, there are hardly any foreign contractors working on Dutch road projects. For example in Poland there are construction companies from all over Europe, this is not the case in the Netherlands.

With large consortiums for DBFM / PPP projects there are usually foreign participants for the 'finance' part of the contract. But the actual work is done by Dutch contractors, it's rare to have foreign contractors. Besix (Belgium) is doing some road projects.

That is not to say there is no foreign involvement in the Dutch road construction sector. Many contractors hire skilled labor from the eastern EU. Some components are also built in other countries (in particular steel components which are often built in Belgium). But the leading construction companies are almost always Dutch due to their expertise with Dutch requirements. There is high demand for complex planning to speed up large projects while keeping traffic impact to an absolute minimum. In the Netherlands, only 3% of traffic congestion is due to roadworks. In Nordrhein-Westfalen, with a similar area, population and motorway network size, it is 50%.
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